OK College Football Fans, Now What? Oregon Lost!!

[saildog]

Wow...

I didn't know Oliver Stone resorted to YouTube Presentations.

It doesn't matter. The game is played on the field in real time and any review will focus on the call, not what was missed. That said we all agree to the rules and if you get gypped, well, that's part of the game, too. THE...Ohio State won.

I can accept a call on the field, but to justify a crap call by what was missed and then state, "It doesn't matter that this wasn't a pass interference...look at what they could have called" is laughable. In fact, it further proves that the officiating crew was incompetent.

That said...the call was the call and that is that. There is no changing it, thus no need to justify it. No need to involve Ollie.

[joshvox]

The funniest part about that call is that, as that Oliver Stone video shows, the official (from the grassy knoll?) first makes the right call (holding) then makes the pass interference call--very strange. The fact that the face mask took place is just gravy.

[saildog]

The funniest part about that call is that, as that Oliver Stone video shows, the official (from the grassy knoll?) first makes the right call (holding) then makes the pass interference call--very strange. The fact that the face mask took place is just gravy.

The premise of the video is clearly stated: "Whether holding, pass interference, or face mask; the result is the same: First Down." (as if Karma wears stripes).

If it is to be argued, why pick the one that didn't happen? Were the officials confused as to which would benefit THE...Ohio State the most and went with the one that seemed the most egregious?

Grand scheme of things: it doesn't matter...THE Ohio State won. However, to go so far as to make a video to prove a point THAT WAS ALREADY DECIDED IN THE.......OHIO STATE'S FAVOR...is kind of silly.

[theantiquetiger]

One thing I don't understand. The video says there most likely was not Pass Interference, and that Defensive Holding has the same result as PI, so it did not matter. I didn't see defensive holding. The ball was on the 5 yard-line, correct? A D-player can jam a receiver within the first 5 yards of a pass play. Here is the definition from Ask.com:

Definition: Use of the hands to hold or push an offensive receiver or back on a passing play beyond the first five yards past the line of scrimmage.

In this case, the D-player did release the jam after about 3 yards, so there was no holding.

The facemask was incidental and would not have given OSU a first down, just one more play from the 1 yard line, and OSU didn't make it into the Endzone on the next play. The facemask looked bad in slow motion, but in real time, it lasted a split second.

[Brue]

Whether or not it was a bad call is irrelevant
There are plenty of questionable calls in every game in every sport. There were probably calls in this game that went Miami's way - maybe others for OSU. Refereeing, umpiring, judging are flawed ways of deciding calls. I Believe that IS part of sports. It should be. We certainly have the technology to decide what baseballs are in the strike zone - yet we still keep umpires that, on (surprisingly) rare occasion, make the wrong call. Does that mean we should eliminate Umps?
Using a computer, video and replay are not part of a game.

People tend to remember the final call of a game and forget the rest.

- and this particular call was certainly not indisputably wrong which would mean that even with replay it would not be changed.

[joshvox]

One thing I don't understand. The video says there most likely was not Pass Interference, and that Defensive Holding has the same result as PI, so it did not matter. I didn't see defensive holding. The ball was on the 5 yard-line, correct? A D-player can jam a receiver within the first 5 yards of a pass play. Here is the definition from Ask.com:

Definition: Use of the hands to hold or push an offensive receiver or back on a passing play beyond the first five yards past the line of scrimmage.

In this case, the D-player did release the jam after about 3 yards, so there was no holding.

The facemask was incidental and would not have given OSU a first down, just one more play from the 1 yard line, and OSU didn't make it into the Endzone on the next play. The facemask looked bad in slow motion, but in real time, it lasted a split second.

Yeah, you can jam, but you are not supposed to grab the jersey at any time, which the Miami player did for a split second, impeding the progress of Gamble.

I happen to agree as well with everyone saying "does it really matter?" The outcome is that OSU won. Just that every single time a Buckeye fan brings this up, somebody mentions that call. That is why some Buckeye fan made that video--if nothing else it shows that if you scrutinize each and every play, you will almost always find something.

I agree with you on the facemask--I do think as well that it wouldn't have resulted in a first down--again, it was just gravy that it happened as well.

[toys2cool]

Whether or not it was a bad call is irrelevant
There are plenty of questionable calls in every game in every sport. There were probably calls in this game that went Miami's way - maybe others for OSU. Refereeing, umpiring, judging are flawed ways of deciding calls. I Believe that IS part of sports. It should be. We certainly have the technology to decide what baseballs are in the strike zone - yet we still keep umpires that, on (surprisingly) rare occasion, make the wrong call. Does that mean we should eliminate Umps?
Using a computer, video and replay are not part of a game.

People tend to remember the final call of a game and forget the rest.

- and this particular call was certainly not indisputably wrong which would mean that even with replay it would not be changed.

Yeah maybe a few calls did go our way,but no call to win the game.There's a difference.That game should've ended there,there was no holding or PI.look at the replay and look at what tiger points out,he released him.Plus you guys forget that they went after Willis Low and tore his knee up,If will had been there the whole game,maybe the score would've been a lot different
who knows? it was still a great game and will always be remembered for that questionable call