Did you see the new Who ?

[Bruce Banner]

Jessica Rayne, the actress who played the empath in this episode, will also play original DW producer Verity Lambert in the forthcoming docudrama An Adventure in Space and Time, which details the story behind DW's creation in the 60s.

[jwyblejr]

I liked the line about The Doctor having ice in his heart. I'm thinking to myself "which one?"

[Mikey]

Am I crazy ? .... The girl kept reminding me of a young Talia Shire from Rocky

[Gorn Captain]

I really liked this one, too.
It all worked well. Smith was in great form, making it fun to watch. It was pretty scary at times (time to hide behind the sofa), and the twist at the end was a nice idea.
Loved the crystal and the Tardis bell, that takes you back to vintage episodes.

[Bruce Banner]

Yeah, it was great that Metebelis 3 was mentioned, and that the Doctor used one of the blue crystals.

Those references to the classic DW episodes are cool, and I wish there were more of them.

[Mikey]

This week's episode was ok -- the haunted house one.

Loved the blue crystal from Metebelis part

Wish Smith would have said from the FAMOUS blue planet

[jwyblejr]

And let's not forget David Warner in a fun role, with some nice references to the 80s. I wish that man got a lot more work, he's a joy to watch.

He does more voice over work.

[Mikey]

Just rewatched the original Ice Warrior's last night.

I can't believe how good this story is

It really neads an official DVD release (with added animation to fill in the gaps)

[Gorn Captain]

> And the idea that Duran Duran might have saved the world. *shudder*

Don C.

I loved it that Warner couldn't care less about the future of the human race, but wanted to know if Ultravox split up or not. In the next episode, The Doctor should save Ultravox from extinction!

[ctc]

>the new Moffat era Cyberman look way more in tune with the originals

The "guy in ski mask" ones? I dunno.... maybe. I think the new Cybermen LOOK different from the others, but they're conceptually in line, and they look neat. (Plus; they're from another dimension so there's some leeway.) I'd love to see them meet some of the older ones.

>While I do like the new Silurians, I've always felt it was a big leap from the old concept

Yeah.... although you could maybe argue that the old ones were all wearing helmets. The old costumes were kind of rigid and could have been artificial armour. They fleshed them out a bit too; which was nice. The Silurians are suppsed to be a fully realized society; not neccessarily bad guys, but not neccessarily our bestest friends either. In THAT regard I thought they did a good job on them. Kinda like the Ice Warriors in this one. A good plan considering....

>I'm also especially glad they didn't say "it's the last of his kind"

.... they couldn't really do that "last of his kind" bit considering how important the Ice Warriors are in the future. Don't we go to war with them in a 100 years or so; and then a couple hundred later they're part of the galactic coalition?

I really liked this episode. It's nice to see something a little less cosmic and a little more visceral for a change. The only thing that kind bugged me.... and it was easy to shrug off.... was how much room there was in that sub. And the idea that Duran Duran might have saved the world. *shudder*

Don C.

[Gorn Captain]

This episode makes me wanna see more Ice Warriors - especially the alternate ones ....

I haven't been so pleased with a classic redesigned monster since they first reintroduced to Daleks in 2005's Dalek.

Yeah, it's a nice update. While I do like the new Silurians, I've always felt it was a big leap from the old concept, making them so much more human. Almost like they're not Silurians anymore.
The Ice Warriors were handled just right.

And the new concept of their armor really makes sense, even when looking back at the old stories. They added to it, without going against established lore.

[palitoy]

Actually the new Moffat era Cyberman look way more in tune with the originals.

[Mikey]

This episode makes me wanna see more Ice Warriors - especially the alternate ones ....

I haven't been so pleased with a classic redesigned monster since they first reintroduced to Daleks in 2005's Dalek.

It also was so nice seeing David Warner --- I thought he retired from acting

[jds1911a1]

I liked it

They treated the Ice Warrior with respect.

No over thought confusing plotlines either

Good one

that's because it was written by Mark Gatiss, not moffat, he is a very good writer who has done work for big finish. A nice tribute to the Ice warriors and he included he history beyond the tv appearances. gragt take on the ice warrior armor which kept the feel of the classics (unlike the cybermen or the silurians in the new show

[Gorn Captain]

I loved this episode, from start to finish.
The Ice Warriors are back, what more can you ask for?
The Ice Warrior looked great, fantastic costume, and a nice twist halfway through the episode concerning his armor!

I'm also especially glad they didn't say "it's the last of his kind" and kill him off, so we could have more Ice Warrior fun later on. Personally, I'd like to see Ice Warriors vs Cybermen. They're similar, but still different enough to give us a nice contrast. Ice Warriors have more personality, they're individuals, and they used that well in this story.

I've always liked submarine stories (conflict in a confined space), and it all worked well, it was exciting to watch. Again, it all looked great (submarine effects, lighting), it looked like motion picture quality.

It's a well-written story, by Mark Gatiss. He's a SciFi and horror fan himself, a good actor (Sherlock and Torchwood, for example), and has made some of the best documentaries on classic and modern horror, presented with knowledge and affection. You should check those out.

And let's not forget David Warner in a fun role, with some nice references to the 80s. I wish that man got a lot more work, he's a joy to watch.