Agents of Shield debuts tonight

[hedrap]

I've been thinking about "Tahiti. It's a magical place." I am thinking the continued use of the word "magical" is intentional...

I think you're right. It feels like foreshadowing.

[sprytel]

I've been thinking about "Tahiti. It's a magical place." I am thinking the continued use of the word "magical" is intentional...

[hedrap]

http://television.cosmicbooknews.com/content/nick-fury-doesnt-help-marvels-agents-shield-ratings-drop-over-30

So, what are we looking at?

30% drop. Ugly. It's losing to The Voice and NCIS. That is not expected. If this continues, they'll move it. And it could easily kill Gotham Central.

The much-loved Marvel credit-bump isn't going to work for television. The problem for Disney is you can do this with the movie stars because as long as they're uncredited, they can pay a different rate. But if you can't advertise or use them as a central figure it means nothing.

Coulson Love, as I've felt from his Iron Man days, is just the latest example of fanboyism that does not deliver.

Television is a fast business now. There's no room for a slow-build on network time. I wasn't down on this when it was originally announced, I was actually optimistic thinking the players involved learned their lessons from past implosions.

But we're seeing an obvious deterioration in quality now that Disney has direct input. They're turning everything into generic action/adventure stuff and using superheroes as the gimmick. Which really misses the point.

EDIT: Bionic. It's a totally different business now, and it mutates about every decade. Buffy was cult big. Angel, somewhat. Firefly, not even. But Buffy hit Fox right when networks were moving away from trying to find the broadest demo and focusing on tighter ones. Buffy fit the X-Files mold, but never achieved X-Files ratings.

TNG was at the cusp of cable originals, so it was always guaranteed a spot somewhere.

The 70's/80's are close to continuous models because business was booming and cable hadn't eaten away at the network core, yet.

If SHIELD stays in the 3 range, they'll make it for the full year on Tuesdays. If they drop into the 2's, they'll move nights when the mid-seasons come in. If that doesn't help, they're one and done.

[Bionicfanboy66]

Glad to see a comic book related series that doesn't take itself too seriously. Most shows normally start out slow. M*A*S*H wasn't exactly a ratings winner during its first season(1972-73). Neither was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Had ST TNG aired on network, it probably would've been cancelled after 12 episodes if that. Six Million Dollar Man didn't really catch on until Jamie Sommers was introduced at the end of season two.

[monitor_ep]

I would have to agree. They need to use this series to introduce the Marvel Cinematic Universe minor characters and they need a villain to connect the series. Every Sci-Fi series needs a major villains to go up against. A.I.M. or Hydra should be used more. I would also like to see Agents of Atlas show up.

[Sideshow Spock]

I thought last nite's ep was even more tedious than the premiere. Just think if the words "Marvel" or "Shield" weren't attached to this project, and it was just a random show about 23yo Gap models in the field for an elite govt agency (despite most of them having no experience), would folks still be so keen on it? From the action to the dialogue, it's all just very mediocre fare.

I've been a big fan of every Whedon series, and so far this is a major disappointment to me.

[Marvelmania]

Another enjoyable episode but kind of tired of how every other show now has a couple of geeks using words that need to be translated so that everyone else knows what they're talking about. It's been played to death. Coulson still makes the show, enjoy his cool demeanor.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Nice twisty episode. I'm glad the show is fun, and not overly brooding or dark.

Chris

[MIB41]

Coulson: "Axe the fish tank." Great line after Fury told him he wanted the ship restored exactly as it was without ANY modifications like some fish tank crap.

[monitor_ep]

Seeing Nick Fury Jr on tonights episode was the best. Hope he shows up again during sweeps week.

[jwyblejr]

Decent start to the AOS series. Certainly has a lot of promise, and will be checking out every episode.
Neat connection to IM3 with the inclusion of Extremis, various cool references to the MU scattered throughout the movie, and I'm liking the eclectic mix of agents.
Great to see Coulson back, and looking forward to the reveal of the secret concerning his return.

They had one of those bits tonight on Disney Channel like they do with the Marvel cartoons for SHIELD. According to the guy who plays Coulson,he's the real deal. Not sure how much of that is to be believed though.

[Random Axe]

I think he has a vested interest in the character. Of course dude's gotta get paid, but I truly think he's a big picture guy and he thinks that Fury is the glue that holds the film universe together so far. I can't imagine him going to the small screen at this point in his career for a paycheck. I think he truly wants to create continuity. Could be wrong, though...

[hedrap]

Samuel L. Jackson did express interest in guest starring as Nick Fury.

You think he was offering out of charity?

He wants the easy payday. He's 60 years old. Dude's got about five more years in the role before they recast.

So maybe five days on site, on set for fours hours a day, for what, at least 500K?

[Operation:Mego]

Rumor is Nick Fury is dropped into the mix the next few weeks because the response to the pilot, going back to initial test screenings a few months ago, has been lukewarm and remained so after the initial launch. So in typical ABC/Disney fashion, they're answer is to slowly panic.

Samuel L. Jackson did express interest in guest starring as Nick Fury.

[hedrap]

Rumor is Nick Fury is dropped into the mix the next few weeks because the response to the pilot, going back to initial test screenings a few months ago, has been lukewarm and remained so after the initial launch. So in typical ABC/Disney fashion, they're answer is to slowly panic.