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  • Meule
    Verbose Member
    • Nov 14, 2004
    • 28720

    #31
    Originally posted by AAAAA
    swallow no, putting in someone eye or cramming in ones nose yes.
    The shape the umbrella in triangle. which makes it easy to insert, but difficult to remove.
    A sword swallower once swllowed a umbrella it open up in his throat trapping it in his larnyx. he suffocated.
    AJ had a bayonet, and it was removed.
    the star trek items were very small and the pirates swords Farily thin , belts are small and flexiable these items can pass the alimentary canal with ease.
    Still not buying it, kids can do the same thing with swords or bows or whatever. Look at Doc Mego's umbrella, it's no more dangerous than any other accessory Mego made.
    And it would be a plastic toy umbrella, not a miniature version of a real one, it wouldn't be able to open and close, so I'm not sure what the sword swallower has to do with this
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    • The Toyroom
      The Packaging King
      • Dec 31, 2004
      • 16653

      #32
      Originally posted by drmego
      Lex Luthor in 1974 was wearing prison grays - not the most interesting
      costume for a toy. It was not until '75 or '76 that DC gave him the
      purple and green outfit that was used in Challenge of the Super Friends.
      Actually Luthor's purple and green suited debuted in an issue cover dated December 1974, so it was probably on the stands in October '74. So he could have been added from that point on if Mego had chosen to. But for some reason, once they put out the initial Super-Foes for DC they didn't go there again, even though they added Lizard and Green Goblin for Marvel in 1975.

      Challenge of the Super Friends debuted in 1978.
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      • jasonmego1277
        Persistent Member
        • Dec 9, 2008
        • 1741

        #33
        All good questions , and I believe most have gotten answers already, The rest came down to production costs, and I don't want to say laziness, but more what they felt was best. I thought I remember that Iron man was originally intended to be Dr Doom., DC wanted the Oven Mitts, Stan Lee did not. There really was no excuse for Cap Am. However you can take any Toy line, and pick apart why did they not do this, why did they have to do that. It all comes down to nit picking, I am guilty of this myself. Over the years though I have backed off this and have become more accepting of what is.
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        • palitoy
          live. laugh. lisa needs braces
          • Jun 16, 2001
          • 59793

          #34
          Originally posted by Meule
          Still not buying it, kids can do the same thing with swords or bows or whatever. Look at Doc Mego's umbrella, it's no more dangerous than any other accessory Mego made.
          And it would be a plastic toy umbrella, not a miniature version of a real one, it wouldn't be able to open and close, so I'm not sure what the sword swallower has to do with this
          Yeah, I think that the better assumption is that it was cost cutting pure and simple. Mego added an umbrella with the CAH Penguin and I'm inclined to believe if they had bothered to with the WGSH, it would have been a similiar design.

          The superfoes were also somewhat rushed into production, I know from discussions with NK that the SS Supergals were a result of not having tooling done in time for the Holiday season. So even if they wanted to put an umbrella in there, it's likely they wouldn't have had the time.
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          • AAAAA
            Permanent Member
            • Oct 28, 2005
            • 2505

            #35
            Originally posted by palitoy
            Yeah, I think that the better assumption is that it was cost cutting pure and simple. Mego added an umbrella with the CAH Penguin and I'm inclined to believe if they had bothered to with the WGSH, it would have been a similiar design.

            The superfoes were also somewhat rushed into production, I know from discussions with NK that the SS Supergals were a result of not having tooling done in time for the Holiday season. So even if they wanted to put an umbrella in there, it's likely they wouldn't have had the time.
            if that was true "cost cutting "than conan should had molded hair and just a sword.
            The same for Thor.
            or why include goblin's satchel?
            the pengins umbrella is one his his trade marks.
            Last edited by AAAAA; Mar 16, '09, 3:47 PM.

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            • PNGwynne
              Master of Fowl Play
              • Jun 5, 2008
              • 19939

              #36
              No one wanted Penguin to have his bumbershoot more than me, & I doubt we'll ever know why Mego copped out on this one. Likely sheer cheapness.

              Didn't Mego average costs across an assortment? The detail on Mxy's suit probably cost us an umbrella. Darn imp!

              The paltry quality of Cap's suit probably allowed for a shield, but there's not a lot of consistency---look at all the accessories in a typical Batman figure.

              I think, too, that Mego figured how to do more accessories cost-effectively, so we got Green Arrow, Thor, & Conan. Maybe Marvel was more demanding later on with their figs?

              For me, the big clunker of WGSH is Cap, all because of that horrible head deco.
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              • palitoy
                live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                • Jun 16, 2001
                • 59793

                #37
                Originally posted by AAAAA
                if that was true "cost cutting "than conan should had molded hair and just a sword.
                The same for Thor.
                or why include goblin's satchel?
                the pengins umbrella is one his his trade marks.
                Much more importantly, so is Wonder Woman's magic lasso, yet the 8" figure didn't have it, just the 12". Were they also afraid children would strangle each other with that?

                Goblin/Thor/Conan weren't rushed to stores like the villains and gals were, Kublan himself explained that time was an issue with the wave.

                I don't think it had a lick to do with child safety or the conjecture that Mego would have made a working umbrella (?), it just wasn't deemed neccesary for whatever reason.
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                • trekman101
                  Persistent Member
                  • Feb 6, 2009
                  • 1432

                  #38
                  Hey guys have you ever heard the adage "if it's not broke don't fix it"
                  If a line sells well companies tend to leave them alone and if a line doesn't do well they tend not to put more into them.On the other hand if a line does great they will reissue it with new changes and improvements so kids will want to buy them again.
                  In the case with STAR TREK,Paramount is strict and usually wants the bells and whistles added.Plus it was the 70's and these toys were kind of new and not sophisticated.
                  "Thats the ticket laddie"

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                  • AAAAA
                    Permanent Member
                    • Oct 28, 2005
                    • 2505

                    #39
                    Originally posted by palitoy
                    Much more importantly, so is Wonder Woman's magic lasso, yet the 8" figure didn't have it, just the 12". Were they also afraid children would strangle each other with that?

                    Goblin/Thor/Conan weren't rushed to stores like the villains and gals were, Kublan himself explained that time was an issue with the wave.

                    I don't think it had a lick to do with child safety or the conjecture that Mego would have made a working umbrella (?), it just wasn't deemed neccesary for whatever reason.
                    With Wonder woman most of the time she is portray without the lasso, it was deemed not necessary.if they going to do cost cutting don't give bat girl a unitly belt, give her modified batman.
                    They could easy ordered Fashion doll umbrellas from a HONG KONG manufacturerand use them(mego done that in the past){ YES FASHION DOLL UMBRELLAS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE EARLY 60'S}
                    now before you said before how can it be child safety issue.
                    let me , explain that the palying habits girls and boys are very different.
                    Being that girls don't do as many stupid experimenting.
                    as as afootnote Hasbro learn early and Ideal learn thur error
                    that you try to offer each charatcter as differetly as possiable
                    that why the G.I.Joe 4 different branches of military have VERY different outfits when offered.
                    Mego might not done a Green lantern because mother's might not purchace
                    another character in a green unform like Green Arrow{YES I KNOW THAT OUTFITS ARE DIFFERENT BUT MOTHERs (who do most the toy buying) it 2 guys in green suits.
                    Last edited by AAAAA; Mar 17, '09, 2:44 PM.

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                    • Tothiro
                      Kitten Mittens
                      • Aug 28, 2008
                      • 1342

                      #40
                      Originally posted by AAAAA
                      Mego might not done a Green lantern because mother's might not purchace
                      another character in a green unform like Green Arrow{YES I KNOW THAT OUTFITS ARE DIFFERENT BUT MOTHERs (who do most the toy buying) it 2 guys in green suits.
                      Yes. Women are incapable of making fine distinctions like that - it's biogenetical or something to do with men throwing spears and was proven sometime in the nineteen fifties with super advanced science facts. Thats exactly why Mego never made an Iron Man, Shazam or Human Torch once Spiderman was on the market. Excellent sleuthing!
                      Last edited by Tothiro; Mar 17, '09, 2:34 PM.

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                      • palitoy
                        live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                        • Jun 16, 2001
                        • 59793

                        #41
                        Every Wonder Woman figure produced by Mego other than the 8" had a lasso, so I completely disagree on your rationale.

                        It's a big stretch for me to believe that child safety had more to do with it more than simply cost cutting/production time. Mego included solid plastic accessories with the majority of their 8" figures and I can hardly imagine them including a working fashion doll parasol with the penguin, just because they existed doesn't mean it was going to happen unless you have some sort of inside scoop here?

                        If Child Safety was the big crushing concearn, a solid plastic piece (which mego included in Comic Action Heroes) would have been a common sense alternative to Mego and something they clearly knew how to do.
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                        • megoscott
                          Founding Partner
                          • Nov 17, 2006
                          • 8710

                          #42
                          How does a coil of gold string constitute a hazzard? For that matter how does it's absense constitute a cost cutting measure? Sounds like they didn't give a whoop.
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                          • palitoy
                            live. laugh. lisa needs braces
                            • Jun 16, 2001
                            • 59793

                            #43
                            Originally posted by MegoScott
                            Sounds like they didn't give a whoop.
                            Ha! I'd put Vegas money on that more than anything.
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                            • Tothiro
                              Kitten Mittens
                              • Aug 28, 2008
                              • 1342

                              #44
                              I don't know if this has factored into the conversation but it seemed to me that on a from-spiderman-to-conan scale, penguin/joker still made out ok for accessories if you consider the shoes and two part outfit. No Conan of course, but just lower on the list than Lizard (with the hand and feet tooling).

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                              • AAAAA
                                Permanent Member
                                • Oct 28, 2005
                                • 2505

                                #45
                                Originally posted by palitoy
                                Every Wonder Woman figure produced by Mego other than the 8" had a lasso, so I completely disagree on your rationale.

                                It's a big stretch for me to believe that child safety had more to do with it more than simply cost cutting/production time. Mego included solid plastic accessories with the majority of their 8" figures and I can hardly imagine them including a working fashion doll parasol with the penguin, just because they existed doesn't mean it was going to happen unless you have some sort of inside scoop here?

                                If Child Safety was the big crushing concearn, a solid plastic piece (which mego included in Comic Action Heroes) would have been a common sense alternative to Mego and something they clearly knew how to do.
                                who said anything about working parasol ,Plastic molded ones were produced , different style non working umbrellas have been made in the 60's and 70's.I have several.
                                you just answered it youself, they included accessiores with other figures,why not the Pengiun's trade umbrella, the reason has to be safety.
                                molded umbrella looks like a fish hook, and will behave the same way inside a throat or nose.
                                many people back in the 60's &70's went to the hospital ER with the beverage can pull top entangled in there voical cords. because they used to place it in the can when drinking.

                                I never said the lasso was a hazzard , it was not needed people remenber wonder woman more for the Braclets then the gold lasso of truth.
                                concrening the comic action heros the items are so small that they don't pose a threat .every item as to be test UL lab for potential hazzard, child safety codes were being enforce in early 70's and went to the extreme with Battle Star Galactica with there missle firing ships.
                                Last edited by AAAAA; Mar 17, '09, 5:08 PM.

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