Star Trek: Discovery

[enyawd72]

^I wasn't referring to the number of seasons, rather the reason that many seasons stayed on the air.

[SKotK]

"Only" 7 seasons? I think as a rule of thumb, no single show should ever run more than about 5-7 seasons (unless it's Doctor Who). ST:TNG had 7, and that was fine. ST:TOS only had 3, and should have had at least 5. Seems to me that when a show runs longer than 5-7 seasons it either jumps the shark or drags on long past its expiration date, or both. X-Files should have ended after Season 5, or at least 7...instead it jumped the shark and went on without David Duchovny (mostly) until Season 9. Babylon 5 would have been perfect at 5 seasons like the creator intended, if it hadn't been for premature cancellation. LOST was just...I don't wanna talk about LOST. The original BSG only lasted 1 season (2 if you count the dismal Galactica 1980) but should have been 5, while the new BSG was just about right at 4 seasons and a miniseries. I could go on and on with this one I think.

Anyway, 5-7 seasons seems just about right for most shows.

--SKot

[enyawd72]

What does "couldn't save it" mean? Voyager ran for 7 seasons, just like TNG and DS9. Do you mean creatively? Are you sure they couldn't "relate" to Ensign Kim lusting after Seven?

IMO Voyager only ran for seven seasons because it was on Paramount's own network. I feel certain if it had been on any other it would've been axed long before that. Seven of Nine was definitely added to the mix to attract male viewers. That's my point...TOS, TNG, DS9 didn't need that. But, that's just my opinion. When this new Trek hits, we'll see what happens. I'm not expecting a whole lot though.

[Sideshow Spock]

Despite it's female fans, Star Trek still has a mostly male dominated audience...there's a reason Voyager isn't that well liked. They introduced Seven of Nine just to spice things up for male viewers and even that couldn't save it, because there wasn't a male lead character for them to relate to.

What does "couldn't save it" mean? Voyager ran for 7 seasons, just like TNG and DS9. Do you mean creatively? Are you sure they couldn't "relate" to Ensign Kim lusting after Seven?

[Sideshow Spock]

Because they're both black female lieutenants? Or did I miss something?

Martin-Green is playing a Lt. Cmdr, not a Lt. Sorry if that's nitpicking

Were any of the Treks "The Captain Kirk/Picard/Sisko/Janeway Show"? Of course not, Trek has always been about the strength of its ensemble. SMG's character may be labeled as the show's "lead", but that hardly means she'll carry the show..

[emeraldknight47]

The character of Sasha will definitely be the next one killed in the Walking Dead now for sure.

Oh definitely, that's the first thing I though of when I heard she was chosen for ST: D (which, I just realized, if you fail to use the colon, has a really unfortunate acronym!). Since, presumably, this season of TWD is finished filming, I wonder if she'll meet her fate in the back half of this season or in the first half of next season....

[sprytel]

Reminds me of the Diane Carey novels, "Dreadnought" and "Battlestations". The main character is Lt. Piper and she only has peripheral encounters with Kirk and the other main characters from the show. Piper is unabashedly a Mary Sue... but they were fun books and I really liked the fresh perspective.

[Hector]

The character of Sasha will definitely be the next one killed in the Walking Dead now for sure.

[palitoy]

I am curious also on how you focus on a character besides the Captain and keep things interesting.

It's an interesting choice but not unheard of as this new person becomes your gateway into this universe. Kind of how they brought back Doctor Who through Rose's eyes. The whole first season was more about her than him but as it wore on, you knew everything about the Doctor.

Also, isn't this show jumping around each season? So maybe next year it's all about the Captain?

[hedrap]

She's a fantastic actress.

IIRC, the character isn't on the bridge. Unless it's changed, the viewpoint was to be how life on other decks was effected by decisions made from the bridge. So her interactions with Yeoh would come from her perspective, not the classical Trek omniscient viewpoint.

Now, are they trying to reference Uhura by having a hot black female in red dress uniform? Yep. So, yeah, in that sense the series would be "A day in the life of Uhura".

[Spyweb007]

I think a lot of these choices would work better later in the Trek timeline, like after Undiscovered Country, when the Klingons and Federation are becoming allies. Even the new ship design looks like a Klingon/Federation hybrid. Setting his ten years before Kirk makes the diversity of the cast feel a little forced, even though it matches the philosophy of Star Trek, it ignores the fact that in the original series there were still subtle signs of inequality here and there, which had been worked out by the time of the Next Generation and following series. Either way, I want to see Star Trek return to TV, and i'd hate the new series to fail and kill any chances of a new Trek show for years to come. I am curious also on how you focus on a character besides the Captain and keep things interesting.

[palitoy]

I didn't catch the Lt. angle, I misread that she was Captain, so your comment confused me. Makes sense now.

My problem with Voyager was never Janeway, i just found it kinda dull. I know it brought a large amount of Women to Trek fandom, so it had it's benefits. It's not as male dominated as you think.

[enyawd72]

Why is that?

Because they're both black female lieutenants? Or did I miss something? It could just as easily be the Nurse Chapel Show.
I don't think a show centered around Uhura would've lasted for three seasons, and I don't think this one will either. Despite it's female fans, Star Trek still has a mostly male dominated audience...there's a reason Voyager isn't that well liked. They introduced Seven of Nine just to spice things up for male viewers and even that couldn't save it, because there wasn't a male lead character for them to relate to.

[palitoy]

Might as well call it The Lieutenant Uhura Show.

Why is that?

[enyawd72]

Well, this just killed any remaining interest I had in this.

Might as well call it The Lieutenant Uhura Show.