Prometheus-2012 Ridley Scott

[samurainoir]

Isn't six years old a little young to see Alien?
These movies are rated R for a reason.
I think I'd rather show my kid two people making love, than a vicious alien bursting out of someone's chest in a pool of blood.
But that's just me...

I find it odd as well, but neither of us are Americans, and the US traditionally has always being a bit skittish about sex and more readily willing to embrace violent imagery in cinema and TV (we were telling folks this weekend about Toronto's Baby Blue Movies and Steamy Windshields, as well as the Italian movies we all grew up with. Not to mention French language tv, where breasts are no big deal).

I would have no problem with a kid seeing this sex scene... there is no nudity and is extremely mild by even TV standards these days. It even shows the love between the two characters if that is a requisite (the other implied sex scene w/out love is never shown... it would be interesting to know if it was shot and cut out for pacing/timing). On the other hand, I honestly would not want to expose any six year old kid I know to the people being so violently and graphically torn apart, burned alive, cut open, etc. Not to mention the "zombie" scene, and even the fight between two "monsters" at the end has a rapey vibe to it.

[spacecaps]

I saw the film today so I finally got to read all the posts I skimmed over. As some of you know, I do not like Ridley Scott very much. He's got one good movie for every five and all. This was one of the good ones. I really enjoyed it. If a Director's Cut comes out, I'd watch it. The film was very entertaining, scary, and gross at times. It was visually stunning too. As for the plot holes...HERE BE SPOILERS (and questions)

Now remember I liked the film. Really enjoyed it but here's a few things that didn't jive. What I found more confusing was...why was there a face on the outside of the ship they kept showing in the wind storm? Why was there a big head in the cargo hold of the Alien ship? While those things seemed to serve as a visual, they served no purpose. And if you say the big head inside the cargo hold was some kind of idol, that be like putting a crucifix in a warehouse. It didn't make sense. The acting was something too. I don't think that's how people would behave on a space mission like that. Everyone was so wooden and stereotypical. The guy that's just in it for the money (that howls when he release the pops..ug) what was up with him showing up as a zombie alien monster towards the end after his face melted off earlier, the nerdy guy that wants to be everyones friend, the corporate ice queen, the archeologist and his wife that are totally unqualified to even be on a ship like that and will stop at nothing to get answers even though everything they find spits in the eye of her beliefs. The Asain guy and the other guy that had like three lines a piece in the movie about some stupid bet they had going on that are totally cool with ramming the ship and dying in the end when they totally could have lived. Also anyone here listen to music from 1880? Didn't think so but that pilot sure dug some 130 year old CSNY music. He even brought Stephen Still's accordion on the ship with him. The old guy showing up on the end was really dumb too. Oh, and lets make her Theron's father too. That had nothing to do with anything and did anyone care? Naomi Rapace was incredibly annoying the first half of the film but got better towards the end. The abortion scene will stay with you but not having the equipment to perform something that women have been doing on their own for centuries before that....And why was that really expensive surgical champer calibrated for a male? I'm guessing it was for Weyland but a better reveal would have been if Theron was a man. Anyway, as far as the characters, you really don't have any attachment to anyone. I think I would have preferred this had nothing to do with Alien at all. The Engineers created us, we created the Alien? Really? I'm sure some of you will know but what year does Alien take place in? The new Aliens created by the humans in 2094 have all of this ancient technology at their disposal (that some how still works) and have the knowledge to use it all. That's hard to believe. Also what the hell was going on in the beginning. I couldn't decide if that was by design or an experiment gone wrong. I didn't get it though. Those are some of the things that I found glaring in the film. Ridley Scott is supposed to be this huge stickler for detail but one other thing I picked up on was the inconstancy of the helmets. In the beginning when the two archeologist put them on and he gives her the "one small step for mankind" line, they clunk helmets together and they make a sound like to pieces of plastic clanging into one another. Later when the lizard like face hugger wraps around the guys arm and the other dude goes to cut it, the acid splatters all over his face and the helmet melts like plastic too. Later though when he shows up as a zombie and kills off most of the nondescript crew, he smashes their helmets and they break and shatter like glass. Even if he has super alien strength he's smashing space helmets and cracking them open like walnut shells. These helmets should be made from highly pressurized space age material not made of the same material as an Anderson window pane. I'm sure most didn't notice but the space helmets really bugged me when I left the theater.

[4NDR01D]

saw this on Reddit.

Prometheus - Everything explained and analysed *SPOILERS* : movies

[spacecaps]

saw this on Reddit.

Prometheus - Everything explained and analysed *SPOILERS* : movies

That's an interesting read but a film should be able to explain these things within the alloted run time of the movie and not require a dissertation be written in the first week of the movies release to act as an aid and assist in understanding the context and subtleties that went right over 99% of the audience. That's a case of Ridley Scott being too clever for his own good.

[Gorn Captain]

You bring up some good points, Spacecaps, thanks for your review. You have some very valid remarks.
I think the giant head in the cargo hold was situated in what might be seen as a chapel. I didn't mind that imagery, though it wasn't always very clear what they meant.

Yeah, why was that medical device calibrated for a male, while it's placed in the personal space of Theron, a woman? She wouldn't have had it there for her father, 'cause she hates him.

Glad to hear somebody who likes the film, but still has some good points about what might have made it better.

[RickD]

That's an interesting read but a film should be able to explain these things within the alloted run time of the movie and not require a dissertation be written in the first week of the movies release to act as an aid and assist in understanding the context and subtleties that went right over 99% of the audience. That's a case of Ridley Scott being too clever for his own good.

you will lose the average audience if you try and get to technical and explain everything in the movies run time.

Nobody wants to sit through 3hrs of explanations in a movie.

[Hector]

I'm off to the matinee right now to check out Prometheus...will sneak in an Italian sandwich from Genova Deli...will be back with a verdict...later alligator...

[spacecaps]

you will lose the average audience if you try and get to technical and explain everything in the movies run time.

Nobody wants to sit through 3hrs of explanations in a movie.

I get that but what I'm saying is why does everything need to be an Easter Egg Hunt these days. How much of the viewing audience cares to go research the subtleties of a movie they just watched? That's cool for the fanboys and the diehards but not so much for the average filmgoer thats seeing it for entertainment value not the hidden intrinsic qualities. Most films are guilty of this recently and even an older Sci-Fi film like Bladerunner or 2001 needs some dissecting but those older films are few and far between where something like the original Star Wars is filled with mysticism that was able to be understood by the masses without a full thesis written on it.

[samurainoir]

Yeah, why was that medical device calibrated for a male, while it's placed in the personal space of Theron, a woman? She wouldn't have had it there for her father, 'cause she hates him.

I actually think that she does love her father, which is why she came on the mission, hoping he would change his mind, since to her he was on a suicide mission. She had the chamber standing by for him just in case. they obviously have a complicated relationship, strained by his belief in the engineers. There was also that really odd sibling rivalry between her and the android.

[Hector]

Just came back from seeing it.

I hope all the Avengers fans in here don't kill me for this...but Prometheus is my favorite film of the year so far...I LOVED IT!!!!!

I'll came back later and talk about it in more detail.

[Hector]

I saw the film today so I finally got to read all the posts I skimmed over. As some of you know, I do not like Ridley Scott very much. He's got one good movie for every five and all. This was one of the good ones. I really enjoyed it. If a Director's Cut comes out, I'd watch it. The film was very entertaining, scary, and gross at times. It was visually stunning too.

I love you all over again...

[RickD]

Just came back from seeing it.

I hope all the Avengers fans in here don't kill me for this...but Prometheus is my favorite film of the year so far...I LOVED IT!!!!!

I'll came back later and talk about it in more detail.

finally someone on the same page as me

[Hector]

***SPOILERS***


Charlize Theron still thinks she's in Snow White, playing the Ice Queen. She plays a totally egotistical person, and unfortunately, she's about the only one that makes it to the end. Well, almost. The actress claims to have patterned her portrayal on Ripley. Huh? Stop smoking pot, Charlize. And get away from that mirror, we know you're the fairest...

***SPOILERS ANSWER***

Did you even stick around till the end?

Because archaeologist Elizabeth Shaw certainly made it...as well as David the android...well, at least in two pieces...lol.

[Hector]

finally someone on the same page as me

My brother from another mother...

[Hector]

you will lose the average audience if you try and get to technical and explain everything in the movies run time.

Nobody wants to sit through 3hrs of explanations in a movie.

Yep.

From Metropolis to Star Wars...no film is perfect.