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  • Goblin19
    Talkative Member
    • May 2, 2002
    • 6124

    #31
    Originally posted by toys2cool
    i would'nt doubt if the ex-head coach was the one who told James to do it as well
    Very untrue. James openly criticized Mike Brown toward the end of the playoffs. It is strongly believed that former GM Danny Ferry and Mike Brown were not big fans of LeBron over the past couple of years as his egotism was allowed to run rampant by his crew and Dan Gilbert. This is what is believed to be the main reason for both leaving the team. Gilbert believed by kowtowing to James, he would be able to keep him. He employed many of James' friends at large payrates and even had some of them participate in summer league. This helps to explain his feeling of betrayal. He definitely helped create the monster. There is a great cautionary tale in this story.

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    • toys2cool
      Ultimate Mego Warrior
      • Nov 27, 2006
      • 28605

      #32
      Originally posted by Wise4671
      But had Wade left he would have had some class and wouldnt have done it the way Bron did. Man I was big on Lebron so much so I went and seen him play at St. Mary/St. Vincent when he was still in High School and took my son to see him play as often as we could go. When my son found out he wouldnt be here in Cleveland any longer he actually cried. Sure I would have been upset with him leaving Cleveland to play for another team but I wouldnt hate him like I do right now after watching that bs interview. And yep I went out in my back yard and torched my jersey the night of the interview he wanted to join the heat so I figured his jersey should join the heat as well. Im not sure what the Cavs will do right now but I for one will be rooting them on all the way. even though some players cant seem to stay loyal to the fans the fans here in Cleveland will ALWAYS be loyal to our teams. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CAVS
      that sucks man I know the young fans like your boy is who it'll hurt the most

      But do you guys really think he could've won there? no one wanted to play in Cleveland

      I know i would've given anything to had seen Marino win a championship somewhere else if he had to, toward the end of his career he was offered the starting job in Tampa bay and Minnesota and he retired instead..While loyal YES he never won a superbowl and will haunt him forever

      I would'nt want that for James
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      • Cmonster
        Banned
        • Feb 6, 2010
        • 1877

        #33
        Originally posted by toys2cool
        I know i would've given anything to had seen Marino win a championship somewhere else if he had to, toward the end of his career he was offered the starting job in Tampa bay and Minnesota and he retired instead..While loyal YES he never won a superbowl and will haunt him forever

        I would'nt want that for James
        Right on, Damien. Marino was all class... Lebron, however??? I dunno, man, the way he left... I guess time will tell if he wins a championship.

        SC

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        • warlock664
          Persistent Member
          • Feb 15, 2009
          • 2120

          #34
          Lebron

          Originally posted by toys2cool
          that sucks man I know the young fans like your boy is who it'll hurt the most

          But do you guys really think he could've won there? no one wanted to play in Cleveland

          I know i would've given anything to had seen Marino win a championship somewhere else if he had to, toward the end of his career he was offered the starting job in Tampa bay and Minnesota and he retired instead..While loyal YES he never won a superbowl and will haunt him forever

          I would'nt want that for James
          Winning a championship isn't everything ; loyalty and class count for something too. I don't have a problem with him leaving, but the classless manner in which he did so is inexcusable to his loyal fans (and no, I'm not one of them; I've always thought he was extremely over-rated). And could he have won in Cleveland ? Sure he could have, if he were all that. But he isn't; he's too one-dimensional to carry a team.
          Miami fans counting future championships had better remember the 2003/2004 LA Lakers that couldn't get it done with Shaq, Kobe, Karl Malone and Gary Payton. Yeah, Malone was in his final year, and Payton close to the end, but all that talent couldn't buy a title (they lost to the Pistons, a true TEAM ). There just aren't enough balls to go around, and I can't see any of these guys swallowing their ego enough to give up scoring opportunities to a teammate.
          Marino was a class guy all the way; I'm sure it bothers him that he didn't win a Super Bowl, but he can look back on his career with no regrets.

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          • Zemo
            Still Smokin'
            • Feb 14, 2006
            • 3888

            #35
            Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller to join the Miami Heat's Big Three

            It's all coming together. The Riley plan.

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            • Goblin19
              Talkative Member
              • May 2, 2002
              • 6124

              #36
              The difference between football and basketball is superstars have much more say on the end result of a game in basketball. Marino couldn't play defense or have the ball in his hands at every key moment. Also. LeBron isn't near the end of his career and the Cavs have been one of the best teams in the league the past few years. Let's not forget, they were the favorite (along with LA.) of most experts before the playoffs began. They flamed out against the Celtics. I won't say James quit, but the Cavs were up 2-1 in the series and something changed. Trust me, I've played and watched basketball my whole life and never seen a team led by a superstar fail so badly after taking control of a series. His play and especially his attitude were strange, to say the least.

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              • toys2cool
                Ultimate Mego Warrior
                • Nov 27, 2006
                • 28605

                #37
                well hopefully the picks Miami sent will help you guys land a star or at least trade for one... it's better then nothing i guess
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                • toys2cool
                  Ultimate Mego Warrior
                  • Nov 27, 2006
                  • 28605

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Zemo
                  Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller to join the Miami Heat's Big Three

                  It's all coming together. The Riley plan.
                  has it been confirmed?
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                  • warlock664
                    Persistent Member
                    • Feb 15, 2009
                    • 2120

                    #39
                    Heat

                    I think the most important pickup for the Heat will be this year's first-round draft pick - Da'Sean Butler from West Virginia (my Alma Mater '88) !

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                    • toys2cool
                      Ultimate Mego Warrior
                      • Nov 27, 2006
                      • 28605

                      #40
                      Originally posted by warlock664
                      I think the most important pickup for the Heat will be this year's first-round draft pick - Da'Sean Butler from West Virginia (my Alma Mater '88) !
                      2nd round pick but yeah i thought he was a great pick up
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                      • Zemo
                        Still Smokin'
                        • Feb 14, 2006
                        • 3888

                        #41
                        Originally posted by toys2cool
                        has it been confirmed?
                        Yes. Watch for news about Allen Iverson signing too.

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                        • toys2cool
                          Ultimate Mego Warrior
                          • Nov 27, 2006
                          • 28605

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Zemo
                          Yes. Watch for news about Allen Iverson signing too.
                          awesome, i would love AI to get one more at a title and even Shaq
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                          • Zemo
                            Still Smokin'
                            • Feb 14, 2006
                            • 3888

                            #43
                            Originally posted by toys2cool
                            awesome, i would love AI to get one more at a title and even Shaq
                            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...son-and-others

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                            • wayne foundation 07
                              Time to feed the cat
                              • Dec 30, 2007
                              • 5705

                              #44
                              have they released his terms yet,1oo million plus maybe

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                              • toys2cool
                                Ultimate Mego Warrior
                                • Nov 27, 2006
                                • 28605

                                #45
                                Originally posted by wayne foundation 07
                                have they released his terms yet,1oo million plus maybe
                                107 million dollars
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