Shoplifter strangled to death by clerk for stealing...crayons?

[Zemo]

That's just terrible. And I wonder if he would have been treated that way if he had been white.

Why would you think any different?

[Zemo]

Don't steal stuff. He wasn't taking food to feed his family, it was useless stuff and meaningless in the grand scheme. He paid the ultimate price but in Chicago they promote fear as intimidation on the streets. If I thought there was any chance this guy was gonna cause repurcussions with my family and was in the same situation who knows. This guy says something like "I'm gonna get you for this" or hurt my family. Plain and simple. He's a dead man. Not saying that happened but in today's world a guy stealing crayons and toothpaste could be carrying a gun and do you wait to see if he shoots you first....in Chicago I'm sure it's even more likely. Not me. You see innocent people killed everyday for the $5 they have in their pockets and they aren't the ones that initiated any of it. This guy could be alive today if art and dental hygiene weren't such a big priority and he'd just walked by the local CVS. Unfortunately it's a reality that's been caused by a weak justice system and poor support of the men and women enforcing it. A system where the innocent are the ones that worry about being prosecuted for actions taken while defending themselves against criminals. It's a tragic result of the world that's been created. This guy probably feared for himself and over restrained a shoplifter with a deadly result. Not premeditated or intentional, just over reaction in a tense situation he probably never intended to be in.

Absolutely. He was evidently put in a choke hold to subdue his stealing ***. The thief was a victim of his own actions. People in the world need to except responsibility for there actions. His lead to death.

Not saying death by any means is what he deserved, but it was an accidental result of his actions.

[kingdom warrior]

Sorry that's wrong and that person should be charged with murder. The Person shoplifted crayons and toothpaste not put a gun to an employees head.

I hate when companies want the employers to play police in the store....you want to catch shoplifters have security at the door. I'm the same way they don't pay enough to stop a thief.......

[megocrazy]

Don't steal stuff. He wasn't taking food to feed his family, it was useless stuff and meaningless in the grand scheme. He paid the ultimate price but in Chicago they promote fear as intimidation on the streets. If I thought there was any chance this guy was gonna cause repurcussions with my family and was in the same situation who knows. This guy says something like "I'm gonna get you for this" or hurt my family. Plain and simple. He's a dead man. Not saying that happened but in today's world a guy stealing crayons and toothpaste could be carrying a gun and do you wait to see if he shoots you first....in Chicago I'm sure it's even more likely. Not me. You see innocent people killed everyday for the $5 they have in their pockets and they aren't the ones that initiated any of it. This guy could be alive today if art and dental hygiene weren't such a big priority and he'd just walked by the local CVS. Unfortunately it's a reality that's been caused by a weak justice system and poor support of the men and women enforcing it. A system where the innocent are the ones that worry about being prosecuted for actions taken while defending themselves against criminals. It's a tragic result of the world that's been created. This guy probably feared for himself and over restrained a shoplifter with a deadly result. Not premeditated or intentional, just over reaction in a tense situation he probably never intended to be in.

[HardyGirl]

That's just terrible. And I wonder if he would have been treated that way if he had been white.

[LadyZod]

I look at it this way.... I don't get paid enough to chase a crook.

I'm not trained and I could do something wrong which would let the guy get off, or make him sue me.

Nope, that's what 911 is for.

[toys2cool]

that's crazy

[Mikey]

If it was me I would just let the guy leave then call the police.
CVS has CCT camera's for identification.

In a lurch if I did have to subdue somebody I would probably use a full nelson ... even though they'd probably slip out of it and kill me

[SlipperyLilSuckers]

Oh wow that's freaky. Do I really want to move there I ask myself...

[MIB41]

Ooooooookay. I'm staying inside today. It's getting a little whacked out there.

CVS Shoplifter Death Now An 'Active' Investigation, Police Say - cbs2chicago.com