Pit Bull saves his owner from being electrocuted

[Werewolf]

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That was good.

Gotta give Hue props on that one.

[Gorn Captain]

That is incorrect.

I have tiny Poodles. They ain't killing anybody.

You just haven't found the buried bodies yet....

[Gorn Captain]

Amazing...a faithful and heroic pit bull saved his master's life...and instead of praising this magnificent dog...it has turned into an anti-pit bull thread...

I won't see too many humans risk electrocution again, to save another being.

[Gorn Captain]

You know, it's all a question of whether you believe in the rehabilitation of a species.
Pitbulls often get bred by the wrong kind of people.
That gets them a bad rap.
They go to "jail" for that, or usually get put down.
But some of them can be helped. There's plenty of programs out there that prove this.

If you believe that a species is beyond help, we might as well shoot everybody who ever does anything wrong.
Because when a dog bites, he must die.
When a human hurts another, perhaps we should do the same?

I will not and cannot condemn a species.
I agree that a lot of dogs that were trained to kill (for dog fights) have very slim chances to survive, because they were conditioned to think "I must kill or they'll hurt me". Kind of like soldiers.
Just like I would help those soldiers cope with their trauma, I'd do the same for any species. I'm not saying that "people=dogs", just that when you mess up a species, perhaps you can give it some credit and make it right, or at least try.

My Jack Russell has been trained, basically, as a killer of vermin.
For centuries, humans have urged him to kill.
Well, he's a rescue dog, he has never hurt a human being, even when he was being hurt himself, by a child.

I believe in the fundamental goodness of the individual, and our responsibility for own own acts. It's a minority of beings that is "beyond help".

[Mikey]

I like big dogs

[Werewolf]

If you believe that a species is beyond help, we might as well shoot everybody who ever does anything wrong.

I don't believe the breed is beyond help. But pits (as well as rottweilers) are a damaged breed right now. Damaged by attracting the wrong kind of people that worked hard, through selective breeding and abuse, to bring out the negative traits of the breed. It's going to take generations of diligent responsible breeding and care to undue the damage.

I love dogs but you have to be responsible and honest about it. People are at fault to the damage done to the breed. Ignoring the problem is not going to make it go away or help the pitbulls.

Pits are great dogs at their best but still not suited for every person or family. They are by design large agressive guard dogs. They are a working breed and do their jobs very well. You have to be VERY careful when selecting a pit as a pet. Get it from responsible well known breeders. You also have to have the common sense, responsibility and honesty to know/admit if the breed is right for you and or your family and you if want the dog for the right reasons. For example, getting a pit because you think it is a macho status dog is not a good reason.

[Werewolf]

If people want a large sturdy dog I recommend the Bullmastiff. They really are gentle giants. Bullmastiffs are calm, loyal, non agressive dogs. They are guard dogs but were bred to pin and hold prowlers down but not maul them.

[Hector]

You know, it's all a question of whether you believe in the rehabilitation of a species.
Pitbulls often get bred by the wrong kind of people.
That gets them a bad rap.
They go to "jail" for that, or usually get put down.
But some of them can be helped. There's plenty of programs out there that prove this.

If you believe that a species is beyond help, we might as well shoot everybody who ever does anything wrong.
Because when a dog bites, he must die.
When a human hurts another, perhaps we should do the same?

I will not and cannot condemn a species.
I agree that a lot of dogs that were trained to kill (for dog fights) have very slim chances to survive, because they were conditioned to think "I must kill or they'll hurt me". Kind of like soldiers.
Just like I would help those soldiers cope with their trauma, I'd do the same for any species. I'm not saying that "people=dogs", just that when you mess up a species, perhaps you can give it some credit and make it right, or at least try.

My Jack Russell has been trained, basically, as a killer of vermin.
For centuries, humans have urged him to kill.
Well, he's a rescue dog, he has never hurt a human being, even when he was being hurt himself, by a child.

I believe in the fundamental goodness of the individual, and our responsibility for own own acts. It's a minority of beings that is "beyond help".

[Hector]

If people want a large sturdy dog I recommend the Bullmastiff. They really are gentle giants. Bullmastiffs are calm, loyal, non agressive dogs. They are guard dogs but were bred to pin and hold prowlers down but not maul them.

I don't want prowlers to be just be pinned and held down...I want them to be tored to shreds!

What's wrong with you...get your priorities straight...

[huedell]

I won't see too many humans risk electrocution again, to save another being.

With respect...I don't get this whole "dogs vs.humans" thing that
you guys use to try to simplify things here on the boards
in "showing off the "better" qualites dogs have
that humans supposedly don't have...????.....it's apples to oranges.

You don't see a dog EVER freely donating his personal wealth...
thousands of dollars ... for worthy causes ....but humans do it every day.

I'm not joining in with this "dogs vs.humans" thing
with my "donation" example there....just trying to illustrate
my "apples and oranges" point there.

[Gorn Captain]

You don't see a dog EVER freely donating his personal wealth...
thousands of dollars ... for worthy causes ....but humans do it every day.

My dog donates every day.
In the neighbour's garden.
It's amazing how he can aim his "donation" right through the fence....

[huedell]

My dog donates every day.
In the neighbour's garden.
It's amazing how he can aim his "donation" right through the fence....

Hey! I know some humans like that

[Orion]

I don't believe the breed is beyond help. But pits (as well as rottweilers) are a damaged breed right now. Damaged by attracting the wrong kind of people that worked hard, through selective breeding and abuse, to bring out the negative traits of the breed. It's going to take generations of diligent responsible breeding and care to undue the damage.

I love dogs but you have to be responsible and honest about it. People are at fault to the damage done to the breed. Ignoring the problem is not going to make it go away or help the pitbulls.

Pits are great dogs at their best but still not suited for every person or family. They are by design large agressive guard dogs. They are a working breed and do their jobs very well. You have to be VERY careful when selecting a pit as a pet. Get it from responsible well known breeders. You also have to have the common sense, responsibility and honesty to know/admit if the breed is right for you and or your family and you if want the dog for the right reasons. For example, getting a pit because you think it is a macho status dog is not a good reason.

Great post! I have a Pit Bull and a family and don't consider myself to be negligent or unthinking. I don't have the dog because I think it makes me tough, I have the dog because I wanted to give her a life. She was rescued from a kill shelter in NYC where she had seven days left to live. (Not the first one I rescued, my first dog was also part Pit and died after being with us for 11 years.) I acquired my new dog from a respectable Pit Bull rescue group after she was living with a foster parent for 5 months. Pit Bulls are not all large dogs. In fact, many of the fighting dogs are in the 40 to 45 pound range. They are fast and strong. They weren't bred to attack people, they were bred to fight other dogs. I consider dog-fighting reprehensible, but you have to understand this if you are a pit bull owner. There are several problems Pit Bulls are encountering these days. First, negligent owners. Second, bad press. Any mongrel that happens to have some degree of Pit Bull in his genetic make up is going to be labeled a Pit by the press if they do something wrong. Third, they are the subject of serious breed restrictive legislation that is spreading like wild-fire. Owners who can care for them are being forced to abandon them because they can't move from their current situation to another location without the breed ban.

Before condemning the breed everyone needs to educate themself about them. And better yet, actually interact with them. These dogs are getting killed at a heavy rate everyday in this country. They used to be a really common house pet - remember Petey from Our Gang. And from my personal experience, which is all I can rely on at the end of the day, they are high-energy, lovable dogs. Just my two cents.

[TrueDave]

Your friend sounds like he could use some new jokes.

I had never heard it before !

[Joe90]

Great post! I have a Pit Bull and a family and don't consider myself to be negligent or unthinking. I don't have the dog because I think it makes me tough, I have the dog because I wanted to give her a life. She was rescued from a kill shelter in NYC where she had seven days left to live. (Not the first one I rescued, my first dog was also part Pit and died after being with us for 11 years.) I acquired my new dog from a respectable Pit Bull rescue group after she was living with a foster parent for 5 months. Pit Bulls are not all large dogs. In fact, many of the fighting dogs are in the 40 to 45 pound range. They are fast and strong. They weren't bred to attack people, they were bred to fight other dogs. I consider dog-fighting reprehensible, but you have to understand this if you are a pit bull owner. There are several problems Pit Bulls are encountering these days. First, negligent owners. Second, bad press. Any mongrel that happens to have some degree of Pit Bull in his genetic make up is going to be labeled a Pit by the press if they do something wrong. Third, they are the subject of serious breed restrictive legislation that is spreading like wild-fire. Owners who can care for them are being forced to abandon them because they can't move from their current situation to another location without the breed ban.

Before condemning the breed everyone needs to educate themself about them. And better yet, actually interact with them. These dogs are getting killed at a heavy rate everyday in this country. They used to be a really common house pet - remember Petey from Our Gang. And from my personal experience, which is all I can rely on at the end of the day, they are high-energy, lovable dogs. Just my two cents.

Well Said!

And another famous Pit Bull???

Nipper, the RCA Dog



My daughter had to put her rescue dog down a couple of weeks back. He was 14 and a very gentle dog. He was a Pit Bull.