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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #16
    Originally posted by huedell
    They don't just get a bad rap because of "owners who make them aggressive".

    They get a bad rap because they are indeed naturally agressive....the
    report narration mentions that Evans' dog actually was no exception to that.

    Pit Bull owners have to be uber-vigilant to make sure their pets don't
    injure human beings---because of this, personally I think they are too
    much of a threat to have as a pet....and I CERTAINLY wouldn't own one
    if I had a child---that's just crazy risk-wise.
    Bullocks...complete bullocks.

    They get bad rap because thugs use them for fighting because they are a naturally powerful breed of dog...but they are no more aggressive than a Chihuahua...I know Chihuahuas that are meaner than any pit bull...but due to their size...you just laugh at them...they are no threat.

    Sorry dude...the owner is the one who influences the dog...not the breed's genes...I know many family and friends who have pit bulls...they are all fantastic pets...pit bulls are actually kinda calm...other breeds are much more excitable...and can be more dangerous to kids...like Boxers, German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rhodesian Ridgebacks...simply because those dogs are more rambunctious and excitable...whereas the pit bull is more laid back.

    Bad owners are the danger...not the dog itself.
    Last edited by Hector; Mar 5, '10, 6:39 PM.
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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #17
      Originally posted by huedell
      That's like saying "You couldn't ask for a nicer gun."

      All the articles I've read in defense of children plus pit bulls,
      despite approval of the situation, all come to the same basic conclusion...
      and that's a laundry list of precautions to take with this most powerful
      and deadly dog.

      If I had kids, I wouldn't keep a loaded gun in my house and
      I certainly woiuldn't keep a pit bull or any other kind of uber-powerful
      kind of dog around my children...a powerful, deadly dog that needs
      to have a battery of safety rules to be observed at any given time.
      More utter nonsense.
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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        #18
        Originally posted by Gorn Captain
        All dogs are potential killers.
        Much like all humans are.

        So I tend to judge them one by one, and not as a race.
        I've met pitbulls that are supersweet, and I've met poodles that are vicious and capable of hurting small children.

        Now and then, I take shelter dogs out for a walk. I always pick the biggest ones, because those aren't usually picked by most volunteers. I've never had a bad experience, and those dogs are all traumatized.

        Pitbulls were messed up by "human" beings. With training, a lot of them will be just fine.
        I'm not saying thare are all sweethearts, but neither are people.
        Some people, I wouldn't trust to slice bread...
        You couldn't get more right on the money with this post.

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        • Hector
          el Hombre de Acero
          • May 19, 2003
          • 31852

          #19
          You need to watch these three shows, Hue...

          Pit Boss, Pit bulls and Parolees...and The Dog Whisperer...

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          • Hector
            el Hombre de Acero
            • May 19, 2003
            • 31852

            #20
            The dog has been domesticated for thousands of years...it's truly man's best friend.

            Now...if you are talking about having a full grown adult chimpanzee as pet...then you might have a point, Hue...

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            • Werewolf
              Inhuman
              • Jul 14, 2003
              • 14974

              #21
              Originally posted by Gorn Captain
              All dogs are potential killers.
              That is incorrect.

              I have tiny Poodles. They ain't killing anybody.
              You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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              • Mikey
                Verbose Member
                • Aug 9, 2001
                • 47258

                #22
                Any dog that's smaller than cat isn't a dog

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                • huedell
                  Museum Ball Eater
                  • Dec 31, 2003
                  • 11069

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Hector
                  You need to watch these three shows, Hue...

                  Pit Boss, Pit bulls and Parolees...and The Dog Whisperer...

                  I understand that those shows may be arguments for the pit bull being a passable housepet and that the only "risky" ones are ones taught
                  "bad things" by owners...but I'm not sure I could ever be convinced
                  anything other than what Mike and I have posted on the subject....
                  there just seems to be too many unknown variables on these animals
                  to make me think otherwise.

                  And to bring "people" in on this argument as animal defenders have done
                  (other than them teaching pitbulls bad things---I agree with that) is nothing but fluff rhetoric not applicable to the point being debated...

                  ...the issue here is the animal in question and it's potential danger (or
                  lack thereof), not the nature of people in general.

                  Yeah, "some people are bad", I get it....I'd keep my eye on babysitters
                  too...especially ones that I invited to live in my house and be around my
                  children
                  "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                  • Hector
                    el Hombre de Acero
                    • May 19, 2003
                    • 31852

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Werewolf
                    That is incorrect.

                    I have tiny Poodles. They ain't killing anybody.
                    Even tiny poodles can turn into mouse and rat killers.

                    Don't feed him for a couple of weeks...and he'll turn into a ninja assassin...

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                    • Hector
                      el Hombre de Acero
                      • May 19, 2003
                      • 31852

                      #25
                      Originally posted by huedell
                      I understand that those shows may be arguments for the pit bull being a passable housepet and that the only "risky" ones are ones taught
                      "bad things" by owners...but I'm not sure I could ever be convinced
                      anything other than what Mike and I have posted on the subject....
                      there just seems to be too many unknown variables on these animals
                      to make me think otherwise.

                      And to bring "people" in on this argument as animal defenders have done
                      (other than them teaching pitbulls bad things---I agree with that) is nothing but fluff rhetoric not applicable to the point being debated...

                      ...the issue here is the animal in question and it's potential danger (or
                      lack thereof), not the nature of people in general.

                      Yeah, "some people are bad", I get it....I'd keep my eye on babysitters
                      too...especially ones that I invited to live in my house and be around my
                      children
                      Have you ever owned a dog?

                      Do you have any children?

                      I rest my case then...

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                      • Mikey
                        Verbose Member
                        • Aug 9, 2001
                        • 47258

                        #26
                        I owned ....

                        St Bernard
                        German Shepard -mix
                        Beagle - mix
                        Mini Collie mix
                        mut
                        Lab -mix

                        Today it's just a cat

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                        • Werewolf
                          Inhuman
                          • Jul 14, 2003
                          • 14974

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hector
                          Even tiny poodles can turn into mouse and rat killers.

                          Don't feed him for a couple of weeks...and he'll turn into a ninja assassin...

                          But we are talking about danger to humans, not rodents. Besides my dog is four pounds. He wouldn't survive a couple of weeks, let along a few days, without food and he probably wouldn't survive a fight with a rat.

                          I also have to agree with Mike and Hue on this.

                          Some dog breeds really do pose an increased risk of danger to humans. Small toy breeds, like Yorkies and tea cup Poodles, which have been bred from their beginnings purely as companion animals are just not in the same danger level as dogs like pitbulls and rottweilers which were bred as guard and attack dogs. It's in their nature it's what they were bred to do. Pitbulls inbred aggressive tendencies, size, strength and biting power is unfortunately why they've often been the dog of choice for fighting dogs. As well as a status symbol for those wanting what has become known as tough or dangerous dog.

                          There's also been a lot of really bad breeding going on with pitbulls specifically designed to further bring out the aggresive tendencies of the breed. Pitbull rescue groups have to be VERY careful when placing dogs because of this. Unfortunately a great many of them are unplaceable and have to be euthanized.

                          When getting a Pit Bull for a pet you have to be damn sure you've gotten your pit from a very reliable breeder and then you are still not a hundred percent in the clear. A friend of my mom got a pit from a reliable breeder and raised it with gentle loving care and when it became mature it became vicious and tried to kill her other dog.

                          There are reasons that many states have breed specific laws do to the risks of attacks from certain breeds. Many insurance companies also charge you more depending on the breeds you have.
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                          You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                          • huedell
                            Museum Ball Eater
                            • Dec 31, 2003
                            • 11069

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Hector
                            Have you ever owned a dog?

                            Do you have any children?

                            I rest my case then...

                            You're kidding right?

                            Hec, you are the KING of the "bail out" debaters
                            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                            • Hector
                              el Hombre de Acero
                              • May 19, 2003
                              • 31852

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Werewolf
                              But we are talking about danger to humans, not rodents. Besides my dog is four pounds. He wouldn't survive a couple of weeks , let along a few days, without food and he probably wouldn't survive a fight with a rat.
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                              • Hector
                                el Hombre de Acero
                                • May 19, 2003
                                • 31852

                                #30
                                Originally posted by huedell
                                You're kidding right?

                                Hec, you are the KING of the "bail out" debaters
                                I'm the king...you are my court jester...

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