This week's Flash episode was great!

[Earth 2 Chris]

I was disappointed the show did this big heel turn again. We did the "Barry's mentor secretly wants to kill him" thing last year.

Thank you. I left that out of my mini-rant. This show is better than that.

The "Jay is REALLY evil" thing just doesn't work. I think if you go back and watch the early episodes from this season, it's going to fall apart. It's as convoluted as Lex's long-term, non-sensical plan from BvS. Thawne as Wells worked last year, in an almost Sixth Sense-like way. This just stunk of BS.

I'm hoping they pull out a heck of a double-ringer on this one, and all is explained. Somehow, I don't think so.

And yes, the return of Barry/Iris...ugh. I like Iris now. They saved her from Lana Lang/Smallville syndrome. But it's just...icky. And it has nothing to do with casting a black actress, etc. It's that we're constantly reminded Barry is practically her brother. Ewww.

Chris

[palitoy]

And yes, the return of Barry/Iris...ugh. I like Iris now. They saved her from Lana Lang/Smallville syndrome. But it's just...icky. And it has nothing to do with casting a black actress, etc. It's that we're constantly reminded Barry is practically her brother. Ewww.

My joke to the family when Barry began talking to Iris about her love life was "This is when the Flash gets slow". I tend to play with my phone during those parts.

[The Toyroom]

I'm still thinking Johnny Quick has to come into play somewhere in all of this….his magic formula on Barry's equation board, the mute (?) man in the iron mask…

Plus, I'm still confused…was there EVER an Earth-1 Hunter Zolomon sitting on the park bench (Hey, Aqualung!) or was it the "time remnant"? Is a time remnant like the sliver of time that the Time Trapper used from the main post-Crisis timeline to create his Pocket Universe that the Legion travelled to to meet Superboy all those years as seen in Byrne's run on "Superman"?

Why WASN'T Barry's trip to see Supergirl referenced? If Barry could make the trip there why did he need Cisco to open a portal to Earth-2? I swear even by comic book standards the "science" displayed on this show sometimes is simply wonky.

[Hector]

From the very beginning, never really liked Iris, don't get me wrong, I think she's hot, she looked great in that skimpy red dress...but her character has always been whiny and annoying (she has eased up on that a bit lately though)...and as Chris pointed out...Barry and her googling eyeing each other is gross, borderline incestuous...they were raised as brother and sister...I don't know who was the genius who wrote that particular part...I hope they drop it...too late for their Earth 2 counterparts though...as they are already married there, ewwww, lol...

[Hector]

Oh, I just realized Barry and Iris have no adoptive sibling connection on Earth 2, so it's all good...no grossness factor, ha...

[Hector]

This blogger let's that Flash episode have it...

"Last night The Flash was just nonsense"

"It's at that moment that Dr. Caitlin Snow (Danielle Panabaker) reveals to the team that once upon a time ago Jay Garrick revealed to her his name was actually Hunter Zolomon. Wells is shocked — shocked, I tell you! — to hear that name. Why? Because Earth 2 Zolomon is a serial killer who, in the midst of his barbaric electroshock therapies, was ensorceled by Wells' own metahuman-making experiment and turned into a speedster. So it has taken this long for Wells to recall the fact that a) there was another as yet unaccounted for speedster roaming Earth 2 and b) that he's a dead ringer for actor Teddy Sears."

"Bang, out pops a Zoom. The footrace is on, leading the evildoer into a cunning trap which is ... wait for it ... cardboard cutouts of his dead parents rigged, shooting gallery style, to pop out at just the right moment for the Flash to get a few punches in before shooting him with the ole' metahuman leg iron and locking him in place."

"Also, Iris is in love with the Flash now. Why? Because it looked like so much fun to make out with her adopted brother during her visit to Earth 2. Really."

http://www.polygon.com/2016/4/20/11466878/last-night-the-flash-was-just-nonsense

P.S. It was still better than that horrendous Supergirl season finale though...

[Makernaut]

I was really taken with this show during Season 1 because it seemed to be (at least to me) so much better than "Smallville" or "Arrow". Now with "Supergirl" having aired, I came to realize that "Supergirl" and "Flash" aren't too awfully different in where they suceed and fail, in my estimation. Both are pretty weak shows that have only gained my attention because of their respective leads. Gustin and Benoist are both fantastic in their roles. If they could just step up the writing a bit and put better supporting characters around these two.

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Yeah, it works there.

I think if they had dialed back the connection. Had Iris live with her mother for the most part, so Barry is living with Joe, and occasionally sees Iris as a kid. But they were a family unit. Period. For him to have romantic feelings for her is just...again...ewww.

Why WASN'T Barry's trip to see Supergirl referenced? If Barry could make the trip there why did he need Cisco to open a portal to Earth-2? I swear even by comic book standards the "science" displayed on this show sometimes is simply wonky.

It could only work at the opening of this episode, because Wells fixes the doo-hickey thing so it will fit behind Barry's chest symbol afterwards. When Barry asked how long he was gone, maybe that's the only nod they were allowed to give? I kind of doubt it, but it seems weird that they didn't plug it more. It also sucks that their timing was so off on the episode schedules.

I kept waiting for him to say something about it, but nothing.

Chris

[Earth 2 Chris]

I was really taken with this show during Season 1 because it seemed to be (at least to me) so much better than "Smallville" or "Arrow". Now with "Supergirl" having aired, I came to realize that "Supergirl" and "Flash" aren't too awfully different in where they suceed and fail, in my estimation. Both are pretty weak shows that have only gained my attention because of their respective leads. Gustin and Benoist are both fantastic in their roles. If they could just step up the writing a bit and put better supporting characters around these two.

I think season 1 was much stronger. This season started out strong, but it's really starting to unravel toward the end, it seems. I hope they are all pulling a fast one (pun) on us, but I kind of doubt it.

I wonder if the creative team isn't just stretched too thin at this point, running 4 shows with a huge cast of characters all at once.

Chris

[Hector]

I was really taken with this show during Season 1 because it seemed to be (at least to me) so much better than "Smallville" or "Arrow". Now with "Supergirl" having aired, I came to realize that "Supergirl" and "Flash" aren't too awfully different in where they suceed and fail, in my estimation. Both are pretty weak shows that have only gained my attention because of their respective leads. Gustin and Benoist are both fantastic in their roles. If they could just step up the writing a bit and put better supporting characters around these two.

You hit the nail on the head here...agreed. Although I do like Flash more, at least it's fun (via Cisco, lol). Supergirl is just cringe worthy to me...and pretty humorless in comparison.

[Hector]

Forbes gets in on the act of Flash bashing...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2016/04/20/the-flash-just-made-the-dumbest-mistakes-in-versus-zoom/#12e6711b4c15

[Hector]

Gotham, my favorite comic book based TV show...but it's not perfect either (although the Hugo Strange plot took it up a notch now), so don't take my posts here as just an excuse to make fun of the Flash, a show I like...but it's good to point out the silliness...it's good for the mind and soul...

[johnnystorm]

Worst of all, Parent of the Year Joe seems totally ok whenever it gets brought up. In a normal world he should slap Barry across the head and yell "She's your sister duma$$! I never want to hear that again or we're going to the dr. and get you straightened out!"

[Hector]

Yes, Joe is definitely not father of the year candidate material, that's a given. Neither the brains of the year candidate (Barry would be immediately eliminated from contention as well, lol).

He also dismissed Wells trying to convince him to tell Barry to leave the Zoom business alone...that Zoom's strength is going after family members...but nooooooooooooooo, Joe didn't wanna hear about it. And what happened? Zoom does exactly what Wells was warning about...he kidnaps Wally, lol. What a monumental moron, lol....

My wish? That Zoom kills Wally right in front of Joe...and Wells doing this...



I can only dream...

[johnnystorm]

Now c'mon...Joe just gave Wally that yard sale refrigerator! Doesn't that count for anything?