^ That's just terrible....
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Are you freaking kidding?!! He looks like a damn crash test dummy!
How hard is it to get Doom right? He's frickin' Darth Vader before Darth Vader! How can Hollywood keep screwing him up?
I really can't believe I'm defending the Corman film this much, but Joseph Culp was a much better Doom than this guy or Julian McMahon, just based on this 30 second clip I saw!
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Jeez, that is horrible. Has he been metallicized into his space-suit? I just cannot tolerate jerking around a major character in that manner. Lazy design, lazy storytelling.WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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I guess its the one thing they kept from the earlier Fox FF Films. Its lazy at best, throwing Doom into the same origin process as the FF. It does make sense that he would be some kind of organic metal with maybe electrical powers or such to fit into the elemental theme, but boy does Doom suck.
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Sensitive viewers shouldn't watch this, but it's a Nerdist video related to the Thing not wearing clothes and obviously missing a critical piece of anatomy.
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It's not just Doom as the "fifth Beatle". The intertwined fates has become a freakin Marvel pox on movies.
Parker/Osborne
Stark/Iron Monger/Whiplash/Mandarin/Ultron
Cap/Winter Soldier
Ant-Man/Yellowjacket
Thor/Loki and Xavier/Magneto are rationale. Hulk would too, but it has to be tangential and not direct cause.
With Doom, it's all cost-bending the production. You take "college friends" and then modernize into "graduate colleagues" and voila; Doom's the member who went bad, which streamlines the script as it reduces the number of locations and erases a subplot. The problem is it doesn't work for the character personality, background or powers. So the producers keep having to morph Doom until you end up with "Doom In Name Only".
Logic - god forbid - would say Doom doesn't fit as the failed member, but Red Ghost, Mole Man or Mad Thinker could be reworked easily into that role. Even Puppet Master could be modernized for it.
Personally, a new version of the Frightful Four to me was always the best answer. It's a shame the U-Foe's from Hulk couldn't be brought in as they're the perfect FF mirror foils and would be a great foreshadowing for Doom as a Putin-esque despot, who briefly knew Richards in school, instantly despised him, and has been mirroring his work in a private cold war out of hopes of besting Reed. But once Richards obtains cosmic powers, Doom doesn't believe it was accidental and sends his team up, becoming the U-Foes who attack The Baxter Building from nowhere.
That's really the element most moderinzations of the FF are missing; the unknown enemy. They were heat seekers for villains. That would also distinguish them from the Avengers, whose running theme is about being proactive.Last edited by hedrap; Aug 5, '15, 5:22 PM.Comment
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The saddest thing is, this wreck's failure will be probably be blamed on the Fantastic Four itself, once "the World's Greatest Comic Magazine" and Marvel's flagship first family.Last edited by PNGwynne; Aug 5, '15, 7:14 PM.WANTED: Dick Grayson SI trousers; gray AJ Mustang horse; vintage RC Batman (Bruce Wayne) head; minty Wolfman tights; mint Black Knight sword; minty Launcelot boots; Lion Rock (pale) Dracula & Mummy heads; Lion Rock Franky squared boots; Wayne Foundation blue furniture; Flash Gordon/Ming (10") unbroken holsters; CHiPs gloved arms; POTA T2 tan body; CTVT/vintage Friar Tuck robes, BBP TZ Burgess Meredith glasses.Comment
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Damn, man, I laughed so hard I almost wet myself!sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.Comment
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I like the Story FF films. They are fun, and I feel the spirit of the comic is there. I think the casting could have been better with Reed and Sue, but they all did well with what they were given. Doom was absolutely horrible, and a total misfire, casting a flavor-of-the-week actor who has since faded into obscurity (as far as I know). I liked the second movie better than the first, because I thought they did pretty well by the Silver Surfer. Yes, Galactus was a cloud and they kind of chickened out on it, but it worked within the film.
They aren't masterpieces, but they are entertaining, and again, evoke the spirit of the early comics pretty well. Heck, the Corman film does, with no budget, but with a very committed cast and crew, doing the best they could with absolutely no support.
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I should say warning...SPOILERS...but I don't think anyone here cares, lol.
Apparently...the Thing has been deployed as a military weapon...and has 47 confirmed kills...
"Upon waking up from their accident, Reed Richards manages to escape the facility in "Area 57" and drop completely off the radar. A year passes, and Ben Grimm has accepted his new place in the world. He is a weapon, dropped into war zones and almost impossible to stop. We see some footage on monitors of him in action, and we see that he has something like 47 confirmed kills. Trank gives us a single close-up of the Thing, and that's supposed to be enough to tell us that he feels bad about it. Considering Ben Grimm in this film is just a dude who works at his family's junkyard right up until the second he's in this terrible accident, it seems like a pretty big adjustment for him to suddenly be a murderous wrecking machine without the film really dealing with it. You want to reinvent the character like that? Fine. But do it, and then really play it. Play it all the way out to a conclusion that feels honest based on what we as people know about our own feelings and experiences."
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Wow, just wow...Ben Grimm kills people now...
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