MOS trailer

[huedell]

I'll be there for the first showing, no doubt. I was expecting a better trailer than this, but it's still good. They had 2/3 of it Clark "finding" himself. Save that for the film, show me some action that isn't a bunch of one second cut shots. This preview was a bit lazy if I'm being honest. It's still, without doubt, my most anticipated movie, I just thought I'd be foaming at the mouth excited...

I'm thinking that that trailer was the opposite of "lazy".

My opinion is that "lazy" would be what you yourself just described, as in: just giving the audience a slam, bam, action-superhero movie trailer to satiate their Hollywood-drone need to see all the money shots in a trailer.

Instead this one attempted to go for your deeper emotions.

As mentioned earlier, I think Costner's one line alone helped them to succeed with what I just described that I believe they were going for.

[Operation:Mego]

So... on Krypton, the El family symbol means "hope"?

Yep, ever since Mark Waid's Superman: Birthright series. The S-Shield is the Kryptonian symbol for "hope" and Superman believes it may have begun as a coat of arms for the House of El. So not Smallville (Hector, you can regain consciousness now. ).

Ok, two people on Earth do then...

I do as well. While weaker then Elfman's theme, Horner's is still very enjoyable and heroic.

[madmarva]

It worked for me. It showed enough action and emotion to whet my appetite for both. I really like the role Lois is playing. Her interview setting in this one's not quite as romantic as in the 78 film.

The theme sounds promising and different. Loved the opening shots on Krypton.

But is he going to create an earthquake every time he flies? Too much Matrix, hate the influence that film still holds on movies today.

At least the kid isn't as terrible as the boy in Phantom Menace.

[Bruce Banner]

Yep, ever since Mark Waid's Superman: Birthright series. The S-Shield is the Kryptonian symbol for "hope" and Superman believes it may have begun as a coat of arms for the House of El.

Ah, that's probably why I couldn't remember it... I really didn't think much to the Birthright series when I read it, and probably blocked most of it from my memory. I thought it was a poor replacement for Byrne's MOS origin, and was glad when DC eventually declared it non-canon. Although I disliked Geoff Johns & Gary Frank's Secret Origin almost as much.

And I loathed the series "Smallville".

[huedell]

At least the kid isn't as terrible as the boy in Phantom Menace.

I think it's stuff like the venom that the Phantom Menace kid's acting provoked that encourages me to point out stuff like I pointed out when acting is brought up at all. Actually, I can swallow some bad acting if the rest of the film is watchable.... particuualry the script/story.

[hedrap]

It's an interesting premise. I really like the Jor-El logic; send him to Earth because he'll be almost godlike and they can't hurt him. Every father would take that option.

When did that context come in play? I don't remember that in Donner's, Byrne's reboot, STAS or even Smallville. It actually makes Luthor's opposition more understandable.

Plus, Lois following this kind of story is surprisingly credible. Starts off as quirky human interest and becomes this.

I'm impressed, except I don't like the destiny loop of Zod killing Pa Kent.

I never would have thought of Costner and especially Crowe playing father figures to the main hero. Good lord, I don't know who feels older, them or me.

EDIT - ya know, on second thought, I do remember Smallville having some narrative where Jor-El explained he sent him to Earth to rule and Clark refusing that position.

[madmarva]

Missed anything in the trailer about Zod killing Pa Kent?

[pmwasson]

I'm now finally looking forward to seeing the movie!

[Operation:Mego]

Missed anything in the trailer about Zod killing Pa Kent?

Yeah, I didn't get anything like that either.

[huedell]

It's an interesting premise. I really like the Jor-El logic; send him to Earth because he'll be almost godlike and they can't hurt him. Every father would take that option.

When did that context come in play? I don't remember that in Donner's, Byrne's reboot, STAS or even Smallville. It actually makes Luthor's opposition more understandable.

Plus, Lois following this kind of story is surprisingly credible. Starts off as quirky human interest and becomes this.

Both your "Lois" AND "Jor-El/Luthor" premises feel like they've been there for as long as I can remember. However, in much different ratios.

I've never been all that superhero media savvy (ESPECIALLY with comicbooks) so I'm sure there's a billion members here who could clarify these premises' origins to a great extent, more than me just saying "Yeah, that sounds about right." Ha.

[huedell]

Yeah, I didn't get anything like that either.

I'd have to re-watch it.

Regardless.. its a GREAT angle.

Not an actual following through of that... but a parallel.

HOWEVER, IF Zod had nothing to do with Krypton's explosion, THEN it seems more useless because I'd prefer that motif to be a parallel of a situation that already happened ("Zod kills Clark's Kryptonian father, Clark fears losing his Earth father to Zod") rather than a more minimal connection in it just being a "fear of losing your family" type kind of motif.

[Hedji]

I find the reluctance to call him "Superman" a bit odd. It's like the "Selina Kyle" thing with Dark Knight Rises. I mean, he's Superman for goodness sake. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, guess what...?

[Operation:Mego]

I find the reluctance to call him "Superman" a bit odd. It's like the "Selina Kyle" thing with Dark Knight Rises. I mean, he's Superman for goodness sake. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, guess what...?

It's a chicken.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Well, it might not be reluctance to call him "Superman", but just a funny bit of getting around to the actual name. At least, I hope that's the case.

I like the angle of Lois chasing him around for years piecing together his super-feats. It's a neat way to connect her to Superman without Clark taking the job at the Planet (which doesn't seem to be in this one...maybe at the end?).

Chris

[madmarva]

Calling oneself Superman is a bit pompous, but having the name hung on you by the media or Lois in particular, allows the character to be super yet humble.