Dark Knight Rises spoilers thread

[kingdom warrior]

I have no problem with dislodging he mask.

my problem is - why does teh "world's greatest detective" resort to fist a cuffs -TWICE when i smarter choice could be made

Cause I'm BATMAN!!! heheheheheh

[Brue]

Batman didn't hand Bane's arse...he bloodied friggin'downright cheated and just got lucky dislogging Bane's mask, lol.

I have no problem with dislodging he mask.

my problem is - why does teh "world's greatest detective" resort to fist a cuffs -TWICE when i smarter choice could be made

[Earth 2 Chris]

I know. I was just trying to get a rise out of you. Pun intended!

Chris

[Hector]

Once you bring Supes into the discussion, all gloves are off, and I go medieval...

[Hector]

You Batman groupies should stop yapping about him handing Superman's arse, beating him with Kryptonite is the most overrated accomplishment in comic book history...beating Supes with Kryptonite is no big deal, even a little girl can do that...

[Earth 2 Chris]

But that's how Batman always beats Bane. He also cheats when he uses Kryptonite, but he still hands Superman his arse, too.

Chris

[Hector]

Batman didn't hand Bane's arse...he bloodied friggin'downright cheated and just got lucky dislogging Bane's mask, lol.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I didn't feel like Bane's death was anti-climatic. Batman had already handed him his arse earlier in that scene. Talia's exposition gave him his second wind, and here he came again. I thought it was refreshing that Catwoman just rolled in and shot him instead of Batman/Bane Round 3.

I need to see it again,but I didn't feel that Bale/Batman was in the movie much less than in The Dark Knight. DK serviced a lot of characters and a dense plot as well. There were good stretches of the film with no Batman. Since DKR hinged on his absence, it was understandable that he would be out of the picture at times.

Chris

[Hector]

I saw it last night and came away with very mixed feelings. When I was leaving the theatre I just felt kind of empty. The film just didn't have any impact on me and I'm not sure why. I felt there were a lot of unnecessary points to the story. Why was Batman away for eight years? Seemed far too lengthy, and no one from Bruce, to Gordon, Alfred or Lucius looked any older than in the previous film.
I did really enjoy Hathaway as Catwoman...she reinvented the character and made it her own. I would actually LOVE to see her in a solo film. FAR less impressed with Bane. The two fight scenes with Bane and Batman were very underwhelming, and then for him to simply be shot by Catwoman made his death very sudden and anti-climactic.
Did not like the ending AT ALL. Bruce faking his death, giving away all his remaining assets and moving to Europe with Selena? WOW, didn't see that coming. It seemed very uncharacteristic of Bruce, and much too final. I would have preferred a more ambiguous ending with Batman still being out there.
Finally, throughout the entire film, I was surprised at how little screentime Batman even has. He's hardly in it. They gave more screentime to John Blake, which just wasn't right IMO. I wanted to see a Batman movie not a John Blake movie.
After the awesome acheivement that was TDK, I feel this last one just had too much to live up to, and failed.

I just saw the flick today...lol.

I actually agree with you on most everything...except the fights between Batman and Bane...to me...that was the best part about DKR.

I do agree with your assessment of Bane's death being sudden and anti-climatic. After all that scheming from Bane (and I actually felt kinda sorry for him despite all his murdering and mayhem)...Catwoman just shoots him with the Batcycle...and that was that...I was like "IS THAT IT?" "THAT'S HOW BANE EXITS THIS MOVIE???" Bane's death was just lame, lol.

And you are right about the lack of screen time for Batman...it almost felt like a Gordon Levitt movie, lol.

Overall...a decent movie...but kinda over the top...too much stuff going on...felt kinda bloated.

Hathaway's Catwoman was perfectly acted...but her fight scenes were lame...she's just not a good athlete...she's kinda stiff and slow...but she looked good as Catwoman...as long as she was not fighting, lol.

Dark Knight with Ledger was waaaaaaaaay better (dark but fun)...I love that movie. This one...not so much....this one was sort of...well...it just felt claustrophobic to me.

I enjoyed The Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man a LOT more.

The Avengers = FUN
The Amazing Spider-Man = HEART
Dark Knight Rises = DEPRESSING

[Brue]

whoops i double posted

well in replace of the original text

I thought this was better than 1, not as good as 2.

Why does it not make top grade? I realize Batman is Dark. But this was too dark for my super hero senses. A little too much mayhem and collateral damage.

[Brue]

Oh and bane did sound like Sean Connery......

Oh My Goodness - I was thinking the same thing throughout the movie. Or more like a Saturday Night Live imperssonation of connery

[Brue]

^
The Joker as judge is something we've seen on the animated series and at least one cover, but I seem to remember other images besides the one below, but I'm glad the scene was there because it was a hoot and good to see Crane/Scarecrow again.
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YES! I love the Scarecrow in this series and think it is AWESOME that used him in all three - like a comic book the same bad guys keep popping up.

[Brue]

I thought the innocent child could be Talia, but they did a pretty good job of convincing us it was Bane. It was very similar to Bane's origin in the comics.

i felt pretty comic dumb that it took me so long to see what was right in front of my face. I knew Talia's background. I even knew Tate was bad, I just didn't put 2 and 2 together.

I would also go see a Levitt/Robin as Batman movie. Fantastic job by him in this. ...
I would have preferred his real name be Dick Grayson, but Robin works, as he seemed to be a combo of Dick's character, Tim's resourcefulness, and Jason's general backstory.

it was a nice surprise to have "robin" in it. I felt they eluded to it during the film. films often almalgamate characters to cover the decades of story telling so I think it is fin to give him a new name and use elements of the 2 main robins (3 or 4 if you count others). and as far as Robin being Batman - that is exactly what happened after Bane broke batman (well not right after - after Jean Paul)

I don't know if a film would work though. can you sell that to the masses? maybe another "batman" movie - where batman is only seen in cameo while Robin and Catwoman take center stage

Hathaway had me one over from her first scene in Wayne Manor. She totally owned the role, putting all the whiners and complainers to rest. Great character arc for her. I too would see a Catwoman film with her in it.

i love her

Tom Hardy was far more than just a muscle-bound thug, which was great to see. I still had trouble understanding him at some points, but I caught the important stuff.... Nolan was right about his expressive eyes and mannerisms selling the character. He pulled off a difficult role.

but don't you think the swanson / schumacher character was better?

. I was wondering when Alfred looked at the camera and nodded if the movie wasn't just going to end there, without us REALLY knowing what he saw.

Chris

that would have been a better ending - they could have even reminded us about the auto pilot again or given us a sihouette that looked like wayne. is nothing left to imagination now?

[Earth 2 Chris]

Dixon left DC to go to CrossGen, and when he returned, DiDio was in full control. And all he wrote has been proven more than true. The DCU is in shambles. They have no idea who did what, when or where. Here's another example, citing a character Chuck Dixon helped to make a fan-favorite years ago:

http://www.titanstower.com/thoughts-about-tim-drakes-robin-past-related-to-sdcc-2012-young-justice-panel-comment/

Chris

[samurainoir]

Chuck Dixon on his departure from DC

http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/06/16/chuck-dixon-i-did-not-quit/