Dark Knight Rises spoilers thread

[Earth 2 Chris]

Saw DKR again today. I was able to enjoy it much more and catch the little things I missed the first time. I still can't decide which of the Nolan movies I prefer. I can't think of a film series that is as consistent in it's storytelling as this one, and adheres to it's own internal logic throughout the series. Yes, Gotham looks different in each film, and you had two Rachel Dawes, but it really does feel like one sprawling novel.

Some have complained about the 8 year gap, and the nearly year long span of time in this film, but to me it only adds to the scope of the films. Under most creators, a scope this large would crumble under it's own weight, but Team Nolan pulls it off.

Chris

[Earth 2 Chris]

Of course Tom Cruise is the most notorious member of the crate club. But that goes way back. I saw a bit on TCM about Claude Rains. Back in the 40s he was paired with a taller female co-star. The director shot a scene where Rains enters a room and walks right up to his co-star. He actually walked up a ramp as he came in the room so the two would be face to face.

Chris

[Hector]

[MIB41]

^^^ Now you understand how Stallone gets his business done... egg crates.

[Hector]

The power of movie illusion.

Chriatian Bale is 6' 0"...Tom Hardy is 5' 10"...yet in the movie...Hardy appears much taller on screen...lol.

[Bruce Banner]

Apparently, the novelization of TDKR sort of explains what happened to the Joker.

The book states that Arkham Asylum (absent from Nolan’s two sequels to ‘Batman Begins’) was left almost empty following the Harvey Dent Act, which is an early plot point in the movie born from the demise of Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart) in the 2008 film and the subsequent covering up of his death.

Blackgate Prison is where the majority of criminals now reside except for, according to the book, the clown prince of crime.

The novelisation reads: "The worst of the worst were sent here, except for the Joker, who, rumour had it, was locked away as Arkham's sole remaining inmate. Or perhaps he escaped. Nobody was really sure. Not even Selina."

Interestingly, there's been some info disclosed about deleted scenes featuring Bane.

However, I seriously doubt Nolan will include them on the Blu ray, as he didn't include any deleted stuff for the previous two movies.

The backstory of 'Dark Knight Rises' villain Bane was explained more in scenes that were eventually cut from the film, according to one of the designers.

Lindy Hemming, who designed costumes for the film, let slip details that were left on the cutting room floor by director Christopher Nolan, and also how he came to wear his mask.

“He was injured early in his story. He's suffering from pain and he needs gas to survive. He can't survive the pain without the mask, which is exactly the same as the comic-book Bane,” she told GQ.

“The pipes from the mask go back along his jawline and feedback into the thing at the back, where there are two cannisters of whatever it is ― the anaesthetic.”

Hemming also reveals cut scenes which revealed more about Tom Hardy's hulking villain.

“The other thing that you should have seen during that sequence is him being injured in his youth. So one of the fundamental things about his costume is that he has this scar from the back injury. Even if he hasn't got the bulletproof vest on, he still has to wear the waist belt and the braces,” she added.

“In that [deleted] scene in the prison, where he's learning to fight the same way Batman learned to fight, he's wearing an early version of his waist belt. It's showing support, but it's not the finished one he eventually wears. He's also wearing an early version of his gas mask, all glued together.”

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Ha!!!

That's a good analogy. I'm still not sure how I feel about in relation to the other two movies. I do think it was a very good movie that tied up the series very nicely.

I'm going to see it again this weekend. I'll get back to you. :-)

Chris

[palitoy]

Thought it was the "Return of the Jedi" of the franchise, meaning it was a solid wrap up but I preferred the first one and liked it's darker sequel.

This made me laugh though:

[Brue]

i pretty much felt this way:

I think it was a good film, but some of its greatest strengths are also its weaknesses.
Rises is almost like a war movie to me. It has an urban warfare feeling to it, especially with the two "armies" pitted against each other. I love those kind of movies, but it does take you away from the whole "Batman feel". Batman almost becomes just one of the soldiers in the drama. In a movie this long, you don't see much of Batman.
They have made it so grim, it almost becomes a catharsis. Like a Rocky movie. The good guys keep getting punched down by Bane's superior planning, and this goes on for a very long time. As a viewer, it wears you out.
That is not a bad thing, it's very good drama, but not really a fun viewing experience. It's like a very realistic horror movie that never relents.
To me, all this is strength and weakness.
My wife likes Batman movies, but this one wore her out. She looked away. And that's not what a viewer to do.
In the last 15 minutes, when the tides turns, you say "at last!", but by then you're almost physically tired of whole thing.

Again, I liked the movie a lot, and they took a lot of chances, pushing the envelope, and holding back nothing. In a way, it would have been more in synch with the bulk of the film that Batman had died at the end, and that his friends needed to go on without him. The happy ending seems a bit forced, as if they realized what a harsh ride it had been.

I think I need to see the movie again, to let it all sink in, and then make up my mind.
One thing is for sure, the message is: never stop fighting.

Btw,really liked Bane, hadn't expected that. Well played, a very intelligent character, and a force of Nature. Also enjoyed the little things, like the Scarecrow (did you notice how his jacket reflected on the character, almost with straw sticking out the shoulders)?

[pmwasson]

I just got back from seeing Batman. The way the city got cut off kind of reminded me of the video game Gotham City.

[Gorn Captain]

I think it was a good film, but some of its greatest strengths are also its weaknesses.
Rises is almost like a war movie to me. It has an urban warfare feeling to it, especially with the two "armies" pitted against each other. I love those kind of movies, but it does take you away from the whole "Batman feel". Batman almost becomes just one of the soldiers in the drama. In a movie this long, you don't see much of Batman.
They have made it so grim, it almost becomes a catharsis. Like a Rocky movie. The good guys keep getting punched down by Bane's superior planning, and this goes on for a very long time. As a viewer, it wears you out.
That is not a bad thing, it's very good drama, but not really a fun viewing experience. It's like a very realistic horror movie that never relents.
To me, all this is strength and weakness.
My wife likes Batman movies, but this one wore her out. She looked away. And that's not what you want a viewer to do.
In the last 15 minutes, when the tides turns, you say "at last!", but by then you're almost physically tired of whole thing.

Again, I liked the movie a lot, and they took a lot of chances, pushing the envelope, and holding back nothing. In a way, it would have been more in synch with the bulk of the film that Batman had died at the end, and that his friends needed to go on without him. The happy ending seems a bit forced, as if they realized what a harsh ride it had been.

I think I need to see the movie again, to let it all sink in, and then make up my mind.
One thing is for sure, the message is: never stop fighting.

Btw,really liked Bane, hadn't expected that. Well played, a very intelligent character, and a force of Nature. Also enjoyed the little things, like the Scarecrow (did you notice how his jacket reflected on the character, almost with straw sticking out the shoulders)?

[Hector]

Dead and revived by cats, lol, yeah, that was pretty lame, lol.

[kingdom warrior]

I liked Catwoman's story. I believed she wanted a clean slate, and needed one. Look how quickly Bruce found her?

I'll take this over "dead and revived by cats" any day.



Chris

YUP!!!!!!!!

[Earth 2 Chris]

I liked Catwoman's story. I believed she wanted a clean slate, and needed one. Look how quickly Bruce found her?

I'll take this over "dead and revived by cats" any day.

And no, she was never called Catwoman.

Chris

[Brue]

I don't recall anyone actually giving her the Catwoman name.

The newspaper headline read that there was a Cat Burglar. That is as close as they got.