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  • kingdom warrior
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    Originally posted by Random Axe
    Why would anyone choose to be a clone of an artist that, without question, is among the worst five pencillers ever to put graphite to page?
    Because when Editors are looking to sell books, whomever is the hottest artist is the one they want their stable of artist to clone.......

    Liefield was cloning McFarlane's itchy scratchy style and layouts. then Jim Lee became big and everyone was a clone of him. It always happens. when Kirby left Marvel, Marvel quickly found clones until another artist like John Buscema became the main guy and then they found artist to clone him.

    Insecure Artist do it thinking they will be more marketable to find work....but in fact it just being you goes a long way......

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  • ctc
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    >I can't figure who the character might be.

    Irwin Schwab?

    I gotta say: "That's the most embarrassing thing I've ever heard and I used to be part of Alpha Flight" needs to be a t-shirt!

    Don C.

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  • Bruce Banner
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    I can't figure who the character might be.

    Courtney Simmons, senior vice president of publicity at DC says the character is "major," "iconic" and "male".

    Scott Snyder reasserted that "a character not seen since the relaunch will come out as gay."

    Major, iconic, but not seen since the reboot...
    Last edited by Bruce Banner; May 24, '12, 6:25 AM.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    Just wanted to go on record by saying I had no problem with Northstar being outed as gay, since his original creator meant to do the same, but couldn't. It was just handled pretty silly.

    Still, it is better than DC just randomly picking a character to "make" gay to grab headlines.

    Chris

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  • samurainoir
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    Marvel has also traditionally treated superhero weddings as "events", why should this be any different?












    Last edited by samurainoir; May 23, '12, 11:56 PM.

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  • samurainoir
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    A much better example of a well written Northstar story is John Byrne's two issues of Alpha Flight where he pretty much said it without saying it. As a kid it went totally over my head, and it was more about making Northstar a much more sympathetic and complex character than just being the team's jerk and primary source of conflict. It painted him as an "outsider" in a very relatable way.

    This was the beauty of Alpha Flights initial innovative format of essentially solo stories that first year.
    Alpha Flight (1983 1st Series) #7 VF | eBay


    ALPHA FLIGHT #8 (NM) | eBay


    He's been really well written since rejoining the x-men a few years back, in Matt Fraction's run on X-men (that also introduced his boyfriend)

    Last edited by samurainoir; May 24, '12, 12:03 AM.

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  • Random Axe
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    Why would anyone choose to be a clone of an artist that, without question, is among the worst five pencillers ever to put graphite to page? Mark Pacella may just be number six.

    At least, according to my failing memory, this plot twist of sorts was never announced beforehand giving it shock value and realism. However goofy it is to make such an announcement while beating up a Canadian Mountie, it wasn't made into a media spectacle until after it's relsease.

    Based on cryptic hints, I have a sneaky suspicion who the character is, but I'll keep that to myself.

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  • torgospizza
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    Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
    Okay, it wasn't a splash, but he still yelled it out in the midst of battle.
    Now I want to get that issue just so I can read everything that led up to that speech. BTW, just reading up on Northstar on Wikipedia, I guess Byrne planned on him being gay from the start, but Shooter vetoed it and they skirted the issue with this and that. So, in my mind, anyone that might have been upset when Marvel "made him gay" really had no reason to gripe, because he already was from Alpha Flight's first appearance.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    Bad part is Scott, that's NOT Liefeld. It's one of his many clones who Marvel kept in paychecks after the Image boys jumped ship.

    Chris

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  • Random Axe
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    ^^^That is totally and completely offensive in every sense of the word. They had to do this in a freakin comic book? In Alpha Flight no less? I cannot believe Marvel allowed that to happen under any editorial direction. It's inexcuseable.




    Of course I'm referring to Liefield's artwork.

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  • Earth 2 Chris
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    You're joking, right? That's like if Ultron just blew away a team mate with an energy blast, and our hero's response is "I like kissing girls!!!" It sounds like comedy, rather than character development.
    Not kidding:



    Okay, it wasn't a splash, but he still yelled it out in the midst of battle.

    Jim (Dr. Sheldon Cooper) Parsons of The Big Bang Theory just came out of the closet. He is practically a comic character. Does he count as DC's big reveal?

    Big Bang Theory's Jim Parsons: I'm Gay - UsMagazine.com


    Chris

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  • JediJaida
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    Finally, Someone Who Thinks On My Wavelength!!!

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  • The Toyroom
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    Very true; but back in the day it involved gorillas, or not dreams/not imaginary stories, or the return of some big name artist....
    I think I'd just like them to bring back the gorillas and forget all of these attempts at relevance and realism. They're freakin' comic books for pete's sake!

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  • torgospizza
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    Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
    ...Northstar, after years of fan speculation, in the midst of battle in a Rob Liefeld-ripoff splash page shouted out in huge letters "I'M GAY!!!"
    You're joking, right? That's like if Ultron just blew away a team mate with an energy blast, and our hero's response is "I like kissing girls!!!" It sounds like comedy, rather than character development.

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  • ctc
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    >First, they retcon everything in the 80's, which was bad enough. Then, they do it AGAIN this year!

    They’ve been doing that for a lot longer than the 80's. I think the big dif is that you started getting more long-term fans in the 80's than the decades before, making it tougher for them to just change everything up every 3 - 5 years.

    >If they really, REALLY want tin increase sales and the fan base, all they have to do is WRITE BETTER STORIES!!!!!

    I think the problem here is “what counts as a better story?” Everyone says this is what they should do, but I suspect there wouldn’t be a strong consensus.... except maybe for “like they USED to!”

    ....which is a bit of a misnomer, since you’d need to specify WHICH “used to” you’re referring to, and why that’s the route to go as opposed to another “used to.”

    >Since when is DC above sensationalization to create publicity?

    Very true; but back in the day it involved gorillas, or not dreams/not imaginary stories, or the return of some big name artist....

    Don C.

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