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Look I liked Ledger he was an amazing actor who was getting better and better.....and it's a damn shame that he did the big drop......but his Joker just ain't my Joker and I hope someday I'll see a correct version on screen.....
Steve.
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Awww yeah you know I dig Brody he's one of my Fav actors I think he would have pulled a good Joker too,,,,,
Look I liked Ledger he was an amazing actor who was getting better and better.....and it's a damn shame that he did the big drop......but his Joker just ain't my Joker and I hope someday I'll see a correct version on screen.....
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Romero nailed it well, and Ledger while he didn't look like the comic had the chaos on the surface while planning and coniving deep below down perfect. Nicholson was a walrus in a Halloween costume.You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie BanksComment
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Romero nailed it well, and Ledger while he didn't look like the comic had the chaos on the surface while planning and coniving deep below down perfect. Nicholson was a walrus in a Halloween costume.
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Bravisimo! Could not have said it any better myself!
TOP 3 Favorite Batman films:
1) Batman: Under the Red Hood
2) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
3) Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker
BONUS:
Top 3 worst Batman Films
1) Batman & Robin
2) The Dark Knight
3) Batman ReturnsI... am an action figure customizerComment
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Right again!
Yes... there ARE things from the comics that may not translate well to the big-screen.
However, as I see it, a costumed avenger who...
1) is a supremely trained master of ninja stealth techniques and all known martial arts
2) is blindingly fast and agile,
4) is a master escape artist,
3) is an expert utilizer of slight of hand and shadow
5) Is a master detective
6) and who does NOT need overly sculpted Gieger-esque butt-ugly armor .
Those things will translate just fine to the big screen... if given the chance. Trouble is, NONE of the contemporary filmmakers (or actors) (of the last 20 years) who have brought The Batman to the big-screen have allowed themselves to TRUST the highly successful comic book version of the character.
Hell, by their own admission most of those guys (Burton, Shumacher, Nolan, Keaton, Clooney, Kilmer, Bale) knew NOTHING about the Character when they accepted their big screen assignments.
It shows.
I know virtually everyone is in love with Chris Nolan's Batman films. I respect that, and I would not even try to take that away from them.
But am I the only person who is a little concerned over the fact that virtually ALL of the leaked footage and stills from the upcoming "The Dark Knight Rises" shows The Batman, Bane, Catwoman... ALL of them... operating in broad daylight?
I dunno...Last edited by darklord1967; Aug 15, '11, 4:58 PM.I... am an action figure customizerComment
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Hey---congrats on 1,000 posts, DarkLord1967! That's something of a milestone!sigpic Oh then, what's this? Big flashy lighty thing, that's what brought me here! Big flashy lighty things have got me written all over them. Not actually. But give me time. And a crayon.Comment
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Look again, I think you got it wrong! Long green hair, black around the eyes...thats definitely Beetlejuice!
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For those of you that do NOT like long posts, you may want to disregard now.
I couldn't agree more, Den. The sad part is, if that SAME scene been staged by someone who truly understands these characters, it could have been FAR more "realistic", and at the same time, far more cinematic, and not nearly as silly looking / laughable.
Allow me to illustrate:
In the first place, (as a filmmaker) I would NEVER have a shadowy “urban legend” like The Batman appear in a such a publicly populated, well-lit place (complete with surveillance cameras) like a police station. It dampens his “mystique” considerably, and just makes him a guy in a funny suit. Instead, I would limit The Batman’s headquarters appearances to Jim Gordon’s late night office (for brief clandestine meets), and even then, ONLY in shadowed parts of the space. A ghost-like disappearance (through an open window) when The Commissioner looks away for a moment cements the scene... leaving him visibly un-nerved.
In the second place, why have Commissioner Gordon interrogate The Joker in the darkened interrogation room (spot lit from overhead), and then have him turn ON the main lights after he leaves, (revealing The Batman standing in a bright, neon-lit room)??
I would think the REVERSE would be so much more effective to service The Batman character, no?
Just imagine this: Gordon interrogates un-cooperative Joker in a bright, neon-lit room, while several cops watch from behind viewing glass. The cops (and the audience) see that the whole room is EMPTY except for Gordon and the shackled maniac. Gordon gets up and leaves, and turns OFF the room’s main lights (leaving only the overhanging spot light directly above the Interrogation table.
Gordon joins the cops on the other side of the viewing glass, and tells them to go back to their desks, because the un-cooperative psycho needs to “stew” for a while. Gordon remains and stares at The Joker through the glass, as he reaches for a smoking pipe and tobacco. Even though it is one-way mirrored glass, the maniac (somehow) stares directly back at Gordon (whom he presumably cannot see) and waves at him ominously.
Something suddenly grabs The Joker from the room’s darkness and sends him hurling face-first into the viewing glass, spider-webbing it. Gordon watches calmly from behind the glass just as he lights the tobacco in his pipe with a match. He smirks, turns, and walks away.
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Back in the interrogation room, the hanging overhead light swings back and forth like a pendulum after the Joker’s flying body hit it. The dazed and confused maniac tries to adjust his eyes to a darkened room that is intermittently lit and shadowed. He catches a glimpse of a large silhouetted bat-like figure standing over him before a steel-tipped boot slams into his jaw. The Joker spits blood and attempts to giggle nervously as he crawls away from his powerful attacker.
A hushed voice like shattered glass hisses at The Joker.
THE BATMAN: “Rachel Dawes and Harvey Dent... where are they?”
A pair of leather gloved hands lift the psycho roughly to his feet forcing him to stare at twin reflections of his own garishly disfigured face in the blank eye lenses of The Batman’s cowl. The clown’s only response is to chuckle and shrug mockingly.
The Joker gasps loudly and crumples to his knees as all the air is drawn from his lungs from a brutal fist that plows deep into his solarplexus. The voice from the dark sillhouette calmly and grimly insists.
THE BATMAN: Tell me where they are... now.
Between gasps of air, the cowering madman coughs up bile and chuckles as he manages to stutter a response.
THE JOKER: I... I'll be glad to tell you what you wanna know, Batsy. Hee... heeh.... you’ll NEVER get there... get there in time to save them both. (cough, hack) But… it’ll be so much damn FUN just to see you try.” (Cackling laughter)…
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The Batman and Gordon speed away from Police HQ and head off in separate directions to save Rachel and Harvey.I... am an action figure customizerComment
.....but now I think you're completely INSANE!
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