Superman renounces US citizenship? WHAT?!!!

[MegoSteve]

Pre-WWII America was great if you were a white male, but it wasn't so great if you were black, brown, red, yellow, female, gay, or non-Christian.

We always have. No, not every decision we've made has been great but we do try. And if we didn't try, who would? Answer: No one.

Yeah, you're right again! No other country in the world ever does anything charitable or helpful to other countries.

[jimsmegos]

For the sake of not taking this thread to a dark place, I'll back away. But MegoSteve I do hope you can find some good from America. The good that I know has allowed for the modern world to exist. I'm sorry but IMO the American spirit and freedoms have allowed for the greatest achiements in human histoy. And yes I acknowledge that there are dark spots in our history, but guess what? We've fixed alot and continue to do so thanks to the American idealism that all people are created equally. Is it perfect? No. Could it be better? Yes. But in the end I'll stand proud in my status as a U.S. citizen.

[Mikey]

I'm not a comic reader so i'm not sure how their stories are presented but it seems making Superman officially global might box in writers and stories.

Example, because he's American the US will not let him help out the Middle Easters ... This is good and keeps Superman well into the real world.

If Supes becomes global he can just knock out all bad leaders and dictatorships in one day changing the entire world

For some this might be good, but it would also make future stories totally unrealistic.

Supes must have limitations, if not in body, in mind.

[MegoSteve]

For the sake of not taking this thread to a dark place, I'll back away. But MegoSteve I do hope you can find some good from America.

Again with the baloney. Look, I love America, too, and I think we're better than ever in spite of grousing coming from some people who are unhappy with certain election results, but what you are repeatedly implying is that the rest of the world or being non-American is somehow second rate or inferior (e.g., saying that America's the only country trying to make the world a better place), and that's just not the case at all.

[samurainoir]

Metropolis as created and envisioned by Joe Shuster is actually Toronto, where he grew up (and worked at The Star, the newspaper Clark Kent originally worked for).

[palitoy]

[boynightwing]

Has anyone actually read the issue? I bought it yesterday. It has several stories so I've been rationing them out over the week because its the only comic I bought. I don't recall this story so I must not have read that one. I did read a touching story about Jor'El hiring a man to help him build a certain rocket ship.

[jimsmegos]

Again with the baloney. Look, I love America, too, and I think we're better than ever in spite of grousing coming from some people who are unhappy with certain election results, but what you are repeatedly implying is that the rest of the world or being non-American is somehow second rate or inferior (e.g., saying that America's the only country trying to make the world a better place), and that's just not the case at all.

I assure you that is not my intent at all. My point is that as an American I am proud of that and our accomplishments. One of those being the creation, building and branding of Superman.

When I say America is first and best I do not mean it to be a slam against other countries. It's just what we do. Since the beginning of the Cold War to today, America has always been to me a beacon that stands just a little higher than everyone else. Not that we're better we just handle our "super power" status properly (well we used to). We take initiative and action faster, because in a lot of ways it IS our responsibility. Plus like it or not, in most cases the global community turns to us to see what we think or are going to do in regards to certain matters. The reason for that is a confidence in the American diplomatic process that has been earned over the span of a couple hundred years.

In the end I do not think "American's" are better than anyone else. For that matter I don't think ANY nationality deserves to be boosted up on a pedestal. I'm more of the mind to boost up and celebrate (or boo) an individual on a one by one basis. To paint a broadstroke is racist and believe me brother, that's one thing I'm not.

[boynightwing]

One of the creators of Superman is Canadian. Superman is only a half American. However, I'm proud of the fact that people from both our great countries combined efforts to give us the first best hero.

[Mikey]

Superman is Jewish ....

So he's got ties with three countries America, Canada and Israel

Any more countries with Supes ties ?

[Janson]

Superman is RED COMMIE Bastich!

Didn't anyone read Red Sun?!! I've been saying that he is unamerican for years.

"This post is paid for by friends of Lex Corp."

[knight errant00]

Superman is Jewish ....

Not that I have a dog in this fight, but I believe it's been established that Superman's a Methodist, although Siegel and Shuster were both Jewish.

[MegoSteve]

When I say America is first and best I do not mean it to be a slam against other countries.

You may not mean it that way, but it is, especially within the context of the other things you are saying in this thread. I honestly don't think you are putting much thought into the words you are using. I think you're so wrapped up the emotion of being patriotic that you don't see how that comes off to the rest of the world when you say stuff like "if not for his American idealism and upbringing where would his underlying moral barometer be?" (which implies that other countries don't have morals as good as the U.S.) and "And if we didn't try [to do what's best for everyone], who would? Answer: No one" (which implies that no other country does good work in the world).

[Mikey]

Not that I have a dog in this fight, but I believe it's been established that Superman's a Methodist, although Siegel and Shuster were both Jewish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PLlXnx5Wyg

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[Janson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PLlXnx5Wyg

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That was cool thanks for the link, I didn't know Rolf from the Muppets was a Rabbi?!