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Superman renounces US citizenship? WHAT?!!!

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  • The Bat
    Batman Fanatic
    • Jul 14, 2002
    • 13412

    #61
    For me this isn't complicated...Clark was found and adopted by Jonathan & Martha Kent in Smallville, Kansas. In my book...that makes him American by default.
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    • torgospizza
      Theocrat of Pan Tang
      • Aug 19, 2010
      • 2747

      #62
      Originally posted by MegoSteve
      Pre-WWII America was great if you were a white male, but it wasn't so great if you were black, brown, red, yellow, female, gay, or non-Christian.

      Good times!

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      • The Bat
        Batman Fanatic
        • Jul 14, 2002
        • 13412

        #63
        Originally posted by torgospizza
        Excellent point Brother...times were HARD for EVERYBODY.
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        • SlipperyLilSuckers
          MeGoing
          • May 14, 2003
          • 9031

          #64
          Originally posted by The Bat
          For me this isn't complicated...Clark was found and adopted by Jonathan & Martha Kent in Smallville, Kansas. In my book...that makes him American by default.
          Yeah, and this thread is about him denouncing that...

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          • Mikey
            Verbose Member
            • Aug 9, 2001
            • 47258

            #65
            When I think of Superman I only think of George Reeves and Christopher Reeve versions.

            Even though I love Supes, I couldn't care less about how he's portrayed in comics.

            This talk reminds me of when they killed one of the Robins years ago.

            I didn't care about that either

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            • The Bat
              Batman Fanatic
              • Jul 14, 2002
              • 13412

              #66
              Originally posted by SlipperyLilSuckers
              Yeah, and this thread is about him denouncing that...
              Which is the same kind of media stunt, along the lines as the Comics killing off a favorite Character like Nightcrawler. Like I said before....lame!
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              • SlipperyLilSuckers
                MeGoing
                • May 14, 2003
                • 9031

                #67
                ^ yeah, not worth getting hot under the collar for

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                • Mego Magyar
                  Permanent Member
                  • Jan 17, 2011
                  • 2678

                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Bat
                  For me this isn't complicated...Clark was found and adopted by Jonathan & Martha Kent in Smallville, Kansas. In my book...that makes him American by default.
                  That and over 70 years of Superman history.

                  Is he also going to leave Metropolis - he shouldn't want to be connected to only one city ( an American city ) if he doesn't want to be connected to only one country.

                  Maybe he should leave Lois too so he can belong to all women.

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                  • kingdom warrior
                    OH JES!!
                    • Jul 21, 2005
                    • 12478

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mikey
                    When I think of Superman I only think of George Reeves and Christopher Reeve versions.

                    Even though I love Supes, I couldn't care less about how he's portrayed in comics.

                    This talk reminds me of when they killed one of the Robins years ago.

                    I didn't care about that either
                    Same here when you say Superman I think of them and Kirk Alyn....always thought Superman was a global hero.

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                    • aquatroy
                      Permanent Member
                      • Apr 28, 2002
                      • 3289

                      #70
                      Finally had a chance to read the story.

                      Let me tell you where I sit before I tell you where I stand. I am a very happy American Exceptionalist. I believe that the United States became great because the ideals that it's founders held are great. Did they, and by extension do contemporary Americans hold to those ideals at all times. No. However, and I hate to be cliche, I would rather aim high and miss ... you can finish the line. I am also a culturalist. I believe that cultures can and should be weighed and measured against each other. I believe that it's the responsibility of individuals to examine their culture and strive to improve it. And, yes, I believe that some cultures are better then others.

                      Where I stand.
                      I think this is much to do about nothing. The incident occurs in a throw away story in the back of an over-sized anniversary issue. And, Goyer's logic is flawed. Superman can make as many UN speeches as he wants. Foreign governments, terrorist organizations, and the world at large will always see him as being a citizen/representative of the United States. This decision will change nothing. The story has more to do with Goyer telling us where he stands then any long lasting editorial edict.

                      I'm done.
                      Hey! Check out the pictures.

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                      • Hector
                        el Hombre de Acero
                        • May 19, 2003
                        • 31852

                        #71
                        The new Superman...Henry Cavill...an Englishman...




                        So there...pipe down already...

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                        • Mikey
                          Verbose Member
                          • Aug 9, 2001
                          • 47258

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Hector
                          The new Superman...Henry Cavill...an Englishman...




                          So there...pipe down already...

                          I'll repeat the same thing my mom said about Dean Cain ....

                          "he aint no Superman in my book"

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                          • johnmiic
                            Adrift
                            • Sep 6, 2002
                            • 8427

                            #73
                            Aquatroy, well said. You hit the nail on the head, "Much ado about nothing."
                            Last edited by johnmiic; Apr 29, '11, 11:34 PM.

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                            • LonnieFisher
                              Eloquent Member
                              • Jan 19, 2008
                              • 11024

                              #74
                              I'm listening to a radio show talking about how Superman is the new symbol for the NWO.

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                              • thunderbolt
                                Hi Ernie!!!
                                • Feb 15, 2004
                                • 34211

                                #75
                                ^^^
                                You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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