"Why isn't Green Lantern Black?"

[huedell]

My two cents- regardless of the modern kids perception, the target audience for this flick is "us". We are the one's who are going to go see this movie more so than our kids. They simply aren't a "Super Hero" generation. We are.

I never would've thought that... I thought we were getting to old to be
the main target audience for this movie.... but if that's the stats, then
that's the stats.

Thinking about the John Stewart Green Lantern, do you honestly think his back story would have the appeal of Hal Jordan's? I think not. With Hal you have the opportunity to bring in Green Arrow as well as the Parallax (sp)/ Specter story lines. Those seem much more interesting to me than what John's history could bring.

Of course there's more to mine there. I can't see anybody debating that.
Hal's been around longer.

[BlackKnight]

I never would've thought that... I thought we were getting to old to be
the main target audience for this movie.... but if that's the stats, then
that's the stats.

Your seeing a Green Lantern Movie for 1 Reason Only that all other reasons can revert back to. The Reason Being is simply , His Comicbook Sales for the Last 6 Yrs, Since Jordan was Brought Back to Life. Rebirth, The Sinestro War and Blackest Night . That Being said..., It was Comicbook Readers that Made this Possible, I doubt many Children were reading, unless they were a Dad like me, that Had the stuff laying around. I believe the Target Audience is the People that were reading the Books and made this possible, 1st and Formost.

This isn't Marvel .... DC & Warner only wanna Make Batman and Superman Movies..., With WatchMen BS .

[Mikey]

Black or White, Green Lantern is a kind of boring superhero

"I have a ring that can make green things"

Not very interesting, imo

[huedell]

Black or White, Green Lantern is a kind of boring superhero

"I have a ring that can make green things"

Not very interesting, imo

"Guardians that span billions of galaxies
running a type of military operation
that are in charge of the hero's mission."

...is enough to sell me right there.

"Rogue Lanters that become villains with simillar powers
to the hero." is a pretty good slant on the Guardians thing too.

The "Man Without Fear" angle is pretty interesting as well.

[BlackKnight]

Black and White
"I have a ring that can make green things"

Not very interesting, imo

Point Taken ... If you look at it, as you say Black And White.
But What Comicbook Character isn't, without Everything Else ?

You coulda Stopped Superman right from the 1st thought of the Character. " Ok ..., Yeah lets create this Dude who is Super Human and comes from a Different Planet, ... Oohhh Lets Call Him Superman. " Damn ,... Thats so outta the Box and Interesting, don't you think ?

Or How about Spider-man ..., Lets Create a Dude Who gets bitten by a Frick'in Spider, then Has all of his Powers, But lets Keep it interesting because He lives with his 80 yr Old Aunt, and will define the Definition of ***** Whipped with his relationship with MJ.

Everything thats Ever Created can be viewed as Black And White, if you don't get involved with the Subject at Hand.


I'll Tell you what's not interesting.
Is the Fact that There is 5 Superman Movies . And Lex Luthor is The Villian in 4 of them.

[samurainoir]

My two cents- regardless of the modern kids perception, the target audience for this flick is "us". We are the one's who are going to go see this movie more so than our kids. They simply aren't a "Super Hero" generation. We are.

I'm going to respectfully disagree on this one and make myself feel old at the same time since the sweet sweet demographic is 18-35 and that's now in my rear-view mirror.

"Generation Y/Nintendo/NetGen" whatever you want to call them, and those after them have grown up on Batman the Animated Series, the Burton/Schumacher Batman Movies, Superman TAS, Justice League, Teen Titans Go, and within the last dozen years a Trilogy of Spiderman movies, the pair of Batman reboots, a trilogy of X-Men movies plus a spinoff Wolverine, etc. I think they are as invested in the concept superhero flick as any of the 100,000 monthly readers of the current GL comic (who appear to be around 40ish), they just don't have the source comic book lore as background (nor should they really).

They are aiming for the mass appeal, but the initial box office will be built on the young adults who don't have to mobilize babysitters etc for a night out at the movies, and the catch all will be the families going out for the weekend tentpole picture outing. Everyone else does tend to fall into the home viewing market these days anyways if a film has enough marketing and buzz.

[Random Axe]

I can see where this would create controversy or confusion.

Seriously, is there any other superhero out there who has multiple races associated with the character? There's never been an ethnic Superman, batman, Robin, aquaman, Wolverine, Captain America or Thor. Green Lantern is unique in this and it's a great quality. Anyone of any race of any planet can be selected and be heroic.

Green Lantern is an all-emcompassing character and concept. Too bad it won't be seen as that.

Scott

[samurainoir]

I think if you look at any current comic story line (or cartoon) and then see films based on that lore, you will see that most studios go back to the roots of that material to introduce those characters to the buying public. Since when have any of the Hulk films reflected the current stories in the comics over the past ten years? None. How about Spider-man? Zilch. Films have to be broad based entertainment and not just for one age group in the cartoon market.

Let's be honest, if they were really going back to the true source material in superhero movies, they would be alienating a majority of the audience who no longer have the same kind of anxieties and fears over the bomb and communism that they did in the sixties.

Don't look at it as either/or. Look on it as cherry picking from decades of storylines. If we want to talk about the first Hulk film, the film was hung on an emotional character arc between Bruce and his relationship to his father which wasn't based on the Kirby/Lee material, but retcons decades later, and even then they took liberties. Batman Begins/Dark Knight takes liberally from decades of stories, the least of which is the original Kane/Finger, but in particular Year 1 when it comes to Gordon's storyline, Sam Hamm's storyline post Keaton film script (Ducard), and of course Denny O'Neil's Ras stuff. X-Men is definitely not Lee/Kirby, and Wolverine was based on Origin which was published within the decade.

Even Green Lantern is bringing in the Hector Hammond/Reborn/Sinestro War stuff that was only added in within the past decade as well.

[samurainoir]

I can see where this would create controversy or confusion.

Seriously, is there any other superhero out there who has multiple races associated with the character? There's never been an ethnic Superman, batman, Robin, aquaman, Wolverine, Captain America or Thor. Green Lantern is unique in this and it's a great quality. Anyone of any race of any planet can be selected and be heroic.

Green Lantern is an all-emcompassing character and concept. Too bad it won't be seen as that.

Scott

Iron Man. They seem to have addressed that quite nicely given the "Next Time" line in the first one and the amount of screen-time War Machine had in the second. But again, I don't doubt there will be the nod in GL since Nick Jones has been cast as John Stewart and they appear to be ramping up big for sequels.

Nick Fury. Although I do love the recent solution that the Ultimates have come up with... Fury is now Black Ops running the Ultimate Avengers, so he's got one of those holo-disguises that makes him look like 616 Fury. I hope they do this in the movies as well, along with the eyepatch joke.

[Random Axe]

Iron Man never occurred to me because he's associated with his helmet and not his skin, which is almost always 100 percent covered. The idea is similar in that anyone could be Iron Man, but you don't get to see who that person is under the armor.

And, I've never really read any Ultimate stuff, so Fury didn't click with me either. Even for such a minor character in the Marvel U, he's been played by Sam Jack and the Hoff. That's pretty impressive.

I just think Green Lantern transcends racial barriers. Hopefully they will be able to convey this concept in the movie.

[PNGwynne]

I'll Tell you what's not interesting.
Is the Fact that There is 5 Superman Movies . And Lex Luthor is The Villian in 4 of them.

Amen!

Of course, the Bat-films sported a lot of villain-variety--and varied in quality as well

[saildog]

I'll Tell you what's not interesting.
Is the Fact that There is 5 Superman Movies . And Lex Luthor is The Villian in 4 of them.

Could I get your permission to put that on a t-shirt (for my own personal use and not for profit, of course)?

That is a damn quote-worthy statement, BK!

[huedell]

Could I get your permission to put that on a t-shirt (for my own personal use and not for profit, of course)?

That is a damn quote-worthy statement, BK!

Geez. Hey, I don't wanna get in too much trouble here... but don't blame
Luthor for bad script ideas.

Other Supes villlains coulda just as easily screwed things up for the franchise.

[ctc]

>but don't blame Luthor for bad script ideas.

Dunno if that's what folks are getting at. I think it's more the idea that he's overused.... especially since they always play up the "evil business guy" angle; and "evil business guy" has been WAY overplayed in action movies for the last 25 years.

Don C.

[huedell]

>but don't blame Luthor for bad script ideas.

Dunno if that's what folks are getting at. I think it's more the idea that he's overused.... especially since they always play up the "evil business guy" angle; and "evil business guy" has been WAY overplayed in action movies for the last 25 years.

THAT'S a "bad script idea" that Luthor shouldn't be blamed for...
even if I wasn't clear in my post, I don't think you could've cloned my
post motive/point any better, or any more dead on.