Batman's fate in Final Crisis #6--MAJOR SPOILERS

[Earth 2 Chris]

^^^ Deadman and Etrigan don't count? They've both appeared in Bat books more than a few times.

Yes, they count. Batman can enteract with the undead, or back-from-the-dead, but for him to become one violates the character too much, in my opinion.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

^ Exactly! Deadman and Etrigan are more supernatural than cosmic...I have no problem with Bats and the supernatural. Heck, some of my favorite Batman team-ups are with guys like Deadman and the Phantom Stranger. But if he's revived as part of "Blackest Night" and the Black Lantern Corps then it becomes more cosmic than supernatural. Sort of like his recent experiences with GL and Sinestro Corps rings...it worked in those respective storylines but didn't effect the character in his own books.

If he's revived through the purpose of the Blackest Night storyline (or other cosmic means) I won't like it...it ruins the human factor of the character IMO.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Darkseid has often resurrected those "killed" by his Omega beams, so there's that out as well. He's killed and resurrected Desaad several times that way.

I always thought if Batman ever dies, it should be some random no-name criminal that does it. Shot in an alleyway, so the story comes full circle.

Chris

[johnnystorm]

And also, whenever Batman has interracted with a supernatural entity, he generally plays the skeptic viewpoint to sort of ground the character.

[thunderbolt]

Then DC might as well remove Batman from the DCU and stick over at Vertigo. I don't see how a card carrying member of the JLA can not have these types of whacked out cosmic problems.

[The Toyroom]

Then DC might as well remove Batman from the DCU and stick over at Vertigo. I don't see how a card carrying member of the JLA can not have these types of whacked out cosmic problems.

Again....NOT carrying over into his own book. It's ok if he "dabbles" in black magic and a cosmic crisis or two with the JLA on occassion. But I don't want to see him picking up the mantle of "Sorcerer Supreme" either.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Okay look at it this way. Of the major comic characters, Batman was the closest that came to a character you could actually be. Sure,most of us aren't rich, but if you trained as he did, had access to the gadgets, etc, you could BE Batman. That's one of his main appeals. Sure you'd be arrested, and institutionalized if you tried to fight crime in a bat suit, but you could do it. You can't be from Krypton. You can't get bitten by a radioactive spider and get it's abilities.

Sure Batman has fought out-of-this-world menaces for years, but they never violated the actual notion of the accessibility of the character. Now he is apparently dead, and will be resurrected by either cosmic or supernatural means. This violates the plausibility of the character completely.

Chris

[Riffster]

Bats took on Darksied in JLU handled himself nicely i might add

[ScottA]

OK. Now that he's gone do you think it will send same shock waves through the DCU like Supermans death did? Will we have a funeral for a friend story, Catwoman confessing her love for Bruce at his grave, Superman really ****ed off and going after Darkseid for killing his best friend and the Joker going "sane" since someone else killed Batman and not him?

Now I haven't read a comic in years so I have no idea what's going on in the DCU. I read a little of 52 and Countdown but that's been about it so I have no idea about some of the stories you guys have mentioned. Just wondering how it plays out in the DCU before they bring him back.

[Cosmicman]

^^^ Now Cat is copying and pasting his own posts like we didn't read it the first time.

I know! I think my idea is what is going to happen. You all think I am crazy. You watch!

[Earth 2 Chris]

A reboot wouldn't surprise me...BUT, they had two big chances to totally hit the reset button (Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis) and they didn't, or apparently aren't with FC. Unless there is some big fast one DC is pulling and all post-FC titles have false solicitations.

Maybe Blackest Night concludes with a reboot, although I doubt it. If they have all this strung out over the next several years for a reboot that's just nuts.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

I doubt there'll be a reboot....as Chris said, they had their chance, especially after the mulitverse re-emerged at the end of Infinite Crisis. And said multiverse is supposedly waiting for room on Grant Morrison's schedule so he can map it out and explore it. (Hoo-boy!) It's not a perfect one, nor the complete reboot everyone was hoping for but it is the one I think we're stuck with for the time being. At least for as long as Dan DiDio is in charge, and it doesn't look like he's going anywhere anytime soon.

[thunderbolt]

Okay look at it this way. Of the major comic characters, Batman was the closest that came to a character you could actually be. Sure,most of us aren't rich, but if you trained as he did, had access to the gadgets, etc, you could BE Batman. That's one of his main appeals. Sure you'd be arrested, and institutionalized if you tried to fight crime in a bat suit, but you could do it. You can't be from Krypton. You can't get bitten by a radioactive spider and get it's abilities.

Sure Batman has fought out-of-this-world menaces for years, but they never violated the actual notion of the accessibility of the character. Now he is apparently dead, and will be resurrected by either cosmic or supernatural means. This violates the plausibility of the character completely.

Chris

Right, a guy you or I who would be walking amongst gods. Guys like him and Green Arrow work fine in the SF world of DC Comics, they act the everyman in the DC stories. Bruce and Ollie are usually the two voices of reason in the DCU, too. Ollie's been dead once and he survived it, so Bruce should too.

[BlackKnight]

Where you guys Reading Issue 6 At ? All I got is up to issue 4,.. I didn't even Know Issue 5 was out yet,.. let alone issue 6.

[BlackKnight]

Right, a guy you or I who would be walking amongst gods. Guys like him and Green Arrow work fine in the SF world of DC Comics, they act the everyman in the DC stories. Bruce and Ollie are usually the two voices of reason in the DCU, too. Ollie's been dead once and he survived it, so Bruce should too.

Ollie Blew up In a Building with No Body... Makes more sense,.. just like how RIP Ended..., rather than maybe showing someone Blewn to a Fried CharBroil with some Omega Beem Eyes...

Seems like they will need a Patrick Duffy Dallas Moment to NOT explain this.