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  • pmwasson
    Maker
    • Sep 12, 2007
    • 4881

    Which figures should Mattel make?

    This thread is for the 99.9% of us who don't know which characters are in the next waves.

    Mattel will have to pick characters that will sell. They will want to appeal to people who remember Megos but don't have any and want to get into it. They will want to appeal to people who have all the Megos and just want new characters. They will want to appeal to a new audience so will have to have a well rounded list of characters. And they will have to have popular enough characters for the causal buyer.

    From looking at who that have announced already, I'm guessing going forward they would like to have:

    A "relaunch" popular, common figure (like Superman). This appears to the Mego fans as well as causal buyers. Big named characters like Superman or Batman will always find buyers.

    A "relaunch" uncommon figure (like Green Arrow). You can't ignore the high price of some figures on the secondary markets. There are a lot of people who have incomplete Mego collections due to the high price of some holy grails. Also speculators will think that since the vintage one are expensive, the new ones will be a good investment.

    A missing Mego figure (like Green Lantern). This will appeal to the Mego collectors that have every figure. Give them something new. Also many popular characters were never made so it can drive the causal buyer also.

    A mixture of heroes and villains. Aside from Batman, most of the Mego heroes have nobody to battle (or nobody interesting, I'm looking at you Mxyzptlk). The first wave demonstrates a parity of heroes to villains and I hope they keep it up! It has a Superfriends / Legion of Doom appeal.

    Some kind of pairing or theme (Superman/Lex, Green Lantern/Sinestro). This is more just a personal preference of mine, but I really did like the Famous Cover themes even if some where a bit of a stretch (Avengers Assemble, Children of the Atom, Bring on the Bad Guys, etc.) I can definitely seen a Batman wave and a Justice League wave.

    Lets look at which DC characters Mego made that Mattel should relaunch:

    Definite
    Batman: Huge seller, DC's #1 hero, largest fan base.
    Joker: DC's biggest villian, paired up with Batman, large fan base.
    Wonder Woman: DC is pushing her now, part of the big 3 with Superman and Batman. The only negative is that they may not want to do a female body early in the line to save cost.

    Likely
    Robin: Paired with Batman, part of 60s TV show nostalgia. However, Batman can stand alone and they may want to wait for a male teen body.
    Aquaman: Strong second tier character, Superfriends nostalgia. However, not the most popular character and gets a bad rap.
    Riddler: Icon Mego figure, part of 60s TV show nostaliga. However, definitely a second-string Batman villain.
    Batgirl: A Mego favorite, complete Mego version very expensive so likely a hole in many collections. If they do a female body, she will be made.
    Catwoman: I really hope they do a different version of her that appears to Mego fans such as maybe a 60s TV show catwoman. If they do a female body, I think Catwoman has a good chance, but not the Mego version.

    Unlikely
    Shazam: Third stringer in the DC universe. He has a very loyal fan base but just never seems to break into the mainstream. I hope I'm wrong on this one!
    Supergirl: The Mego version is fun but she has a lot to overcome. Never that popular of a character. Need to make a female body. Even with a female body, they wont want too many women in the waves as female characters never seem to sell as well. I think she would come after Wonder Woman, Batgirl and Catwoman which makes her chances slim.
    Mr Mxyzptlk: Not that popular of a character, the Mego version didn't really capture the comic book character, Superman has better villains to choose from. May require a new body type.
    Penguin: Less popular Batman villain, especially in recent years. May require a unique fat body.
    Isis, Tarzan: I'm unclear on the licensing and DC-cannon of these two. I doubt they will be made.
    Speedy, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wondergirl: new teen body unlikely. Double wammy for Wondergirl being the only female teen.


    Now lets look at which DC characters Mego never made that Mattel should:

    First, Flash has to be included. If you asked anybody here what DC characters are the most glaring omission from the Mego lineup, the answer would be Green Lantern, Lex Luthor and the Flash. They already did two, so I feel the Flash is a given. Probably a Barry Allen flash.

    So here is my list. I tried to order them in likelyhood:

    Flash: See above.
    Martian Manhunter: He IS the Justice League. With Green Lantern and Flash, the Martian Manhunter would be the new glaring omission.
    Other Green Lanterns: Very likely with since DC is really pushing Green Latern now. Also could see a Guardian.
    Hawkgirl: Popular due to Justice League cartoon. Very cool looking and Superfriends appeal. Wings may drive cost up.
    Hawkman: Very cool looking and Superfriends appeal. Wings may drive cost up. Not as popular as Hawkgirl.
    Black Canary: Popular female character (sorry Supergirl), goes with Green Arrow.
    Brainiac: Very popular Superman villian (sorry Mxyzptlk). Can be very visually interesting.
    Ra's al Ghul: Popular Batman villian.
    Black Mantis: about the only Aquaman villain anybody has heard of. Legion of Doom appeal. Very cool looking.
    Cheetah: about the only Wonder Woman villain anybody has heard of. Legion of Doom appeal.
    A Flash Villain: probably Mirror Master, but I would love a Captain Cold. Personally I'm sick of Prof. Zoom customs so I hope they don't go that route. A Gorrila Grod would be awesome but I doubt the tooling costs would warrant it.
    Solomon Grundy: another awesome villain, but probably unlikely due to costs of a new body.
    Atom: Third string hero. Very simple clean design.
    Firestorm: Visually very interesting, but never that popular.
    Black Lightning / Apache Chief: Only if they go a Superfriend wave.
    Zan / Jayna / Gleek: Only if they go a Superfriend wave and teen bodies.

    Okay, this is getting long enough. I'm sure I'm missing a bunch of obvious choices, and you probably disagree with everything I wrote, so what do you think???
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  • The Bat
    Batman Fanatic
    • Jul 14, 2002
    • 13412

    #2
    Ah....back to playing our favorite Game!! I'm IN!!!

    BATMAN!!-Neal Adams Head Sculpt(fits with the whole 70's Mego theme)
    ROBIN!! Neal Adams style
    Ra's Al Ghul-(again...fits with the Adams storyline)
    THe Joker(a MUST!)
    Manbat
    Anthony Lupis(the Werewolf!)
    The Flash(of course!)
    Professor Zoom
    General Zod!!(someone Superman can actually punch!!)
    DarkSeid
    Batgirl
    Supergirl
    Aquaman(NEW Head Sculpt please!)
    Wonder Woman
    Black Canary
    The Atom(comes with small version in the Package)

    And I'm sure I'll think of more later.....
    Last edited by The Bat; Jul 25, '09, 4:58 PM.
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    • thunderbolt
      Hi Ernie!!!
      • Feb 15, 2004
      • 34211

      #3
      Since the pattern with the first series is two heroes and their respective arch foes, series two should reflect the same pattern. Batman/Joker and either Robin/Two Face or Aquaman/Black Manta.
      You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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      • JediJaida
        Talkative Member
        • Jun 14, 2008
        • 5675

        #4
        Ya ever notice that a lot of Superman's enemies were also his cousin's? That seems to be a bit of a dis for the Girl of Steel.

        How about that Kryptonian female that was sentenced to the Phantom Zone because she was a serial killer? I can't remember her name exactly, but I think it was Faola, or something like that.

        Of course do Catwoman, but not the stupid version that Mego put out. That outfit really sucked lemons.

        Here's my list:

        Wonder Woman/Circe or Cheetah
        Batman/Joker
        Robin/Riddler
        Superman/Lex Luthor
        Aquaman/Tiger Shark (he was from waaaaaay back in the 70's)
        Green Lantern/Sinestro
        Raven/Trigon (I'd love to see how they handle the multiple sets of eyes!)
        Wonder Girl/Deathstroke the Terminator
        Starfire/Blackfire
        JediJaida

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        • ovenmitt
          Persistent Member
          • May 26, 2009
          • 1448

          #5
          Here's who I want:

          Wave 2

          Batman- Neal Adams head! Longer cape! Painted hands/ gloves!
          Joker- Carmine Infantino or Brian Bolland version! With removeable hat and trenchcoat! Cane accessory!
          Flash- Barry Allen!
          Reverse-Flash/ Professor Zoom!

          3

          Wonder Woman- NO CLOTH skin! Modern costume! Make top, belt, briefs, tiara, bracelets, and boots seperate pieces! Lasso accessory! Rooted hair!
          Cheetah- Legion of Doom version!
          Aquaman- Mego costume, maybe scales on shirt? Trident accessory!
          Black Manta- Removeable helmet?

          4

          Robin- Dick Grayson! Smaller body! New head, hair parted to right!
          Riddler- Mego costume, new belt!
          Batgirl- Barbara Gordon! Not much tweaking needed on original Mego!
          Catwoman- NEW! Classic costume- purple skirt, green cape! Whip accessory!

          5

          Shazam- New CC Beck head! Improved cape, arm bands, and boots!
          Black Adam!
          Supergirl- Costume like DC Direct 13" Supergirl! New head, rooted hair!
          Bizarro- Legion of Doom version!

          6

          Hawkman- Classic Silver Age! Removeable helmet?
          Hawkgirl- Same as above! Rooted hair!
          Atom- Classic Silver Age
          Martian Manhunter- Same as Atom!

          And, that should take us into 2012- Mego 8" World's Greatest Super Heroes 40TH ANNIVERSARY when I would like to see updated versions of RARE DC Megos like Alter Egos and Teen Titans! CANNOT WAIT!

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          • EMCEtoys
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 1, 2007
            • 284

            #6
            Um, when you say "Neal Adams head", could you be a bit more specific, please?

            I'm just askin'...

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            • Orion
              Museum Night Watchman
              • Mar 11, 2008
              • 824

              #7
              Man, those are some good picks Ovenmitt. One of the only changes I would have is Captain Cold instead of Reverse Flash/Zoom - but otherwise I would be doing back-flips if we see anything close to that!!!!!

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              • ovenmitt
                Persistent Member
                • May 26, 2009
                • 1448

                #8
                EMCE,

                I meant make a new Mego Batman head resemble Batman as drawn by classic 1970s Batman artist Neal Adams, LONGER ears, BLACK forehead on cowl, grimmer look! Adams is considered the DEFINITIVE Batman ARTIST! *BTW I'm also dcdrew who started the NEW DC Megoes thread on the DC Direct board which you replied to! Thanks

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                • EMCEtoys
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 1, 2007
                  • 284

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ovenmitt
                  EMCE,

                  I meant make a new Mego Batman head resemble Batman as drawn by classic 1970s Batman artist Neal Adams, LONGER ears, BLACK forehead on cowl, grimmer look! Adams is considered the DEFINITIVE Batman ARTIST! *BTW I'm also dcdrew who started the NEW DC Megoes thread on the DC Direct board which you replied to! Thanks
                  Okee-doke...just wanted to make sure there was nothing else more specific...as you described it you could be referring to Jim Aparo or anyone else who drew Batman during that time (of course, IMHO, Jim Aparo was a serviceable but not brilliant artist who was aping Adams anyway). I'm a big Neal Adams fan myself (I even hired his company to do some storyboards on a Universal project a decade ago!), so I thought you may have wanted to see something more specific in terms of jawline, mouth shape, etc.

                  And thanx for the kind words on the DC board. I just came back from spewing a bunch of details on GA's sleeves for those who asked.

                  J

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                  • The Bat
                    Batman Fanatic
                    • Jul 14, 2002
                    • 13412

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EMCEtoys
                    Okee-doke...just wanted to make sure there was nothing else more specific...as you described it you could be referring to Jim Aparo or anyone else who drew Batman during that time.

                    J

                    As Neal Adams himself put it..."there's was no need for him to keep drawing BATMAN...as everybody else was aping his style, at that time". And I DO want to see, something more specific in terms of jawline, mouth shape, etc., that looks like Adams Art.
                    Last edited by The Bat; Jul 25, '09, 10:02 PM.
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                    • Werewolf
                      Inhuman
                      • Jul 14, 2003
                      • 14952

                      #11
                      My only suggestion is, if you guys get to female characters rooted hair is a must. They're just not Mego if the women have molded hair.

                      That and a Wonder Woman that doesn't look like a 12 year old girl wearing WW pajamas. Don't get me wrong I adore the Mego WGSH Wondy. But something closer to how she actually looked in the comic would be awesome. Kinda like the 12 inch Mego WW or the recent WW Barbie but in 8 inch scale.
                      You are a bold and courageous person, afraid of nothing. High on a hill top near your home, there stands a dilapidated old mansion. Some say the place is haunted, but you don't believe in such myths. One dark and stormy night, a light appears in the topmost window in the tower of the old house. You decide to investigate... and you never return...

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                      • CrimsonGhost
                        Often invisible
                        • Jul 18, 2002
                        • 3608

                        #12
                        Ha! I don't care what you say Joe, I love Aparo!! He could draw anybody and make them look cool! That's more than serviceable in my book!

                        I love Adams too, don't get me wrong!

                        Andrew
                        Expectation is the death of discovery.

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                        • BlackKnight
                          The DarkSide Customizer
                          • Apr 16, 2005
                          • 14622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by EMCEtoys
                          (of course, IMHO, Jim Aparo was a serviceable but not brilliant artist who was aping Adams anyway).

                          ... That's Harsh.
                          I grew up on Aparo... Read his books for the better half of a decade. I actually prefur his books & designs over Adams personally.
                          ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                          always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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                          • Ivaniski
                            Persistent Member
                            • Jun 24, 2007
                            • 1428

                            #14
                            Which figures should Mattel make?

                            A Neal Adams or Aparo looking Batman with slightly larger ears and a better jaw line will be......AWESOME!!! The icing on the cake will be a R/C (Removable Cowl) version also.
                            Barry Allen Flash version just screams to be made for tier 2.

                            Last edited by Ivaniski; Jul 25, '09, 11:16 PM.

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                            • jwyblejr
                              galactic yo-yo
                              • Apr 6, 2006
                              • 11147

                              #15
                              Since they don't have smaller sized bodies at this point in time,how about Nightwing to go with Batman(whenever you get around to him)?

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