Retro Action Heroes Hit the Shelves

[megowgsh]

Here is the TRU in Joliet, IL

[palitoy]

As always Tom has a good way of putting it.

[WannabeMego]

Assuming this was directed at my comments.

I don't think it was...this discussion/debate has been going on since way before the figures came out.

Most of the responses on both sides I believe are an accumulation of multiple posts since this discussion started way back.

I think Orlock said it best:

I think a lot of times the comments are coming across as bitter and not just opinions and that is where the problems lie. It's a matter of not having any tone online during interactions and that makes things read differently for different people.

I think that one of the best responses is, we should agree to disagree and go back to loving Megos

[starsky]

finally saw them today. there were only 2 sinestros, 2 lex luthors, and 1 green lantern. i was so happy to see them that i just paused for about 3 seconds to take the whole thing in! didnt want to pause too long bec they might've been snatched up! lol my 7 yr old seemed to be more excited than i was! we ended up buying green lantern. i noticed that green lantern had some loose stitching on his costume and probably the reason why he was left hangin on the peg. didnt matter to me tho, bec my son was so ecstatic about having a "mego" green lantern that he could actually play with.

[ScottA]

With the price of action figures today of any size I'm always amazed Mego could sell the WGSH from $1.99 to $3.49.

[palitoy]

Anyone who suggests that a mego collector has no vieable opinion of the modern action figure market is as blinded by preference as they suggest we are.

While we are fans of a format, we are not blind to trends, however its ridiculous to assume one style or format is for everyone.

The retro action line is keyed to a demographic and hopefully their children. They could use some improvement but honestly compared to exclusive premiere, Famous Covers or Signature series, they're the best foot forward a major has ever made.

You can drone on and on about HeMan or Transformers to me and I know it sells but to me they're overpriced hunks of plastic. I just know that's my preference but that's all any of this is. It's a format for action figures, hopefully it takes off, if it does, it doesn't mean the other formats will suffer or fall by the wayside.

I grew up on Star Wars, loved it but when I see them on the shelves for $10 I think "that's a joke" but dammit, other guys buy em.

[hobub]

Mmhmmn, I see your point. The whole thing doesn't affect me much as I collect mainly antiques.

Megos are Antiques. I like it that way.

The new Megos aren't really Megos. Megos are from the 1970's. I can live with that too.

[Blue Meanie]

My post is just pointing out facts.

Fact : No one likes the Mattel Body...so what are they gonna do...swap it out for a Mego Body or a Doc Mego Body or Castaway. So basically you're looking at buying the figure for basically the head, outfit, and accessories. I broke it down for what it's gonna cost for anyone to do that. My numbers are pretty solid. It would cost anyone more $$$ to make those figures, from custom parts from Doc Mego or Castaway, that Mattel is already providing with these figures that they are coming out with. We all get that the body sucks...we all get that the card is crooked on the rack...we all get that the Mattel figure is NOT perfect. It's not a Mego and it will never be a Mego.

BTW, if anyone thinks that Mattel is gearing this line towards the so called masses...you are wrong. The little DC Universe plastic figures are geared toward the Masses(Kids)...these figures are geared toward the collectors. I can guarantee you that there won't be any "Bling Ice Batman's" or "Power Launch" Superman's. Why do you think these figures are being shipped in individual cases??? You can order what figure you want...you aren't stuck with peg warmers. They want to move as many of these as possible. They know the collectors are buying these figures...don't fool yourself into thinking any different.

[BlackKnight]

Not my pic, but I did find him at Target (exclusives only now). These are just hitting this week.. so get to your Targets.

My Target had the Newest Wave ...

Orange Aquaman
Star Sapphire
Batman
Big Barda
Green Arrow

... What's in this Wave ? ... Man I so need that Firestorm.

[geoffdude]

http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!Bm)RcE!BWk~...1PfTg~~_12.JPG


Dude, where you score that ?! Man I need Him !!!

Not my pic, but I did find him at Target (exclusives only now). These are just hitting this week.. so get to your Targets.

[geoffdude]

For what it's worth I tend to agree with you. These are very niche.. and for it to survive as a line, and be worth the $20 price point, quality issues will need to be resolved/improved. Most people who buy these are probably 75%-80% of the lines target market. If these customers start having torsos fall apart, or figures that can't stand, then they're less likely to buy the next wave.

Regards,

g.

Sorry to double post, but you posted this while I was posting my other response. In my original post I mentioned that at my TRU these were right next to DCUC.

Personally, your post didn't do anything to me but sort of accent the overall point I was trying to make. Why would anyone choose these lumpy, sort of cheap quality looking figures for $20 when there is a $15 higher quality figure with multiple accessories and a BAF part right next to it?

MOTUC no doubt is an expensive line to collect, but the quality is really high. Some of the other examples you mentioned, like JLU are vastly overpriced, so no argument there.

Still, the price tag isn't great. I think if these looked and felt a little higher quality, you could make an argument for them. Assuming I keep the one I bought, I know I'm going to have to upgrade him to a better body. This presents a problem, the toys are too expensive for kids, against too much competition for nostalgia value and don't quite offer the quality for hardcore collectors. So what demographic does this work for exactly? Aside from the absolute most hardcore Mego folks.

I'm not sure WHAT can be done to make these work better, just stating my opinion that I think it's a tough road to hoe. This isn't like having to choose between a GI Joe and a Marvel Universe figure (where the Joe is the better value but the MU is the only version of the comic character) this becomes a choice of Superman versus Superman... Pay $15 for the one with better paint and sculpting, plus accessories or pay $20 for one that's sort of misshapen and may need a new body. And that's where I think this line will have some issues.

That Two Face that was previewed looked like a $20 figure. IMO.

[BlackKnight]

Dude, where you score that ?! Man I need Him !!!

[ODBJBG]

Can't really comment on the quality, other than to say many people seem to having problems with the production of these, and that's really too bad. After waiting so long, it's a shame things like this happen.

The price however, that's another issue. $19.99 seems very reasonable. Would I like to pay less? You bet. But factor in body, cloth suit, packaging material, shipping etc., and probably lower production numbers of this line compared to most, the cost of $19.99 really seems in line.

Also, prices of all plastic action-figures have jumped 60% or more over the last few years due to oil cost, production/labor cost of factory workers in China and shipping cost increases due to fuel. And, sewing these cloth costumes is probably more expensive than applying a paint shot upon plastic.

Sorry to double post, but you posted this while I was posting my other response. In my original post I mentioned that at my TRU these were right next to DCUC.

Personally, your post didn't do anything to me but sort of accent the overall point I was trying to make. Why would anyone choose these lumpy, sort of cheap quality looking figures for $20 when there is a $15 higher quality figure with multiple accessories and a BAF part right next to it?

MOTUC no doubt is an expensive line to collect, but the quality is really high. Some of the other examples you mentioned, like JLU are vastly overpriced, so no argument there.

Still, the price tag isn't great. I think if these looked and felt a little higher quality, you could make an argument for them. Assuming I keep the one I bought, I know I'm going to have to upgrade him to a better body. This presents a problem, the toys are too expensive for kids, against too much competition for nostalgia value and don't quite offer the quality for hardcore collectors. So what demographic does this work for exactly? Aside from the absolute most hardcore Mego folks.

I'm not sure WHAT can be done to make these work better, just stating my opinion that I think it's a tough road to hoe. This isn't like having to choose between a GI Joe and a Marvel Universe figure (where the Joe is the better value but the MU is the only version of the comic character) this becomes a choice of Superman versus Superman... Pay $15 for the one with better paint and sculpting, plus accessories or pay $20 for one that's sort of misshapen and may need a new body. And that's where I think this line will have some issues.

That Two Face that was previewed looked like a $20 figure. IMO.

[ODBJBG]

It' absolutely ridiculous that people are complaining about these figures. Here's a question you should ALL be asking yourselves:

How much would you have spent to make these figures as customs??

Let's see:

$5 - $15 for a custom cast RESIN!!! head of the characters
$5 - $15 for a complete jumpsuit/cuffs etc. outfit
$5 - $10 for a body
$5 for boots
$5 - $10 special fist hands
$5 - $20 depending on how many accessories the characters have

That's more than $20 right there.

With all that said YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN about these figures...you really can't. And some here plan on buying them when they go to clearance...so your getting the figures for even less. Give it a rest already. I don't have the figures yet and am waiting patiently for them to reach the east coast...but I still plan on supporting this line. I don't even want the Superman because I don't like the head sculpt...but I sure as hell have plans for that outfit.

Assuming this was directed at my comments. I was excited for these figures. I saw them and was pretty underwhelmed. I stated some pretty simple opinions about how they looked, what happened when I found them and how I suspect these won't go over that well.

If anyone thinks anything I said was WHINING, they should get their head checked. I certainly wasn't whining. I was giving an honest, unbiased opinion. Some of you Megoheads live in a bubble, I don't. That may come across harsh, but this line has to appeal to the mass, not the bubble. My opinion thus far is that this doesn't look like it's going to appeal to the mass.

Is this cheaper than a custom toy, yeah probably. I think the difference is, would I be more satisfied paying $50 for a high quality custom or would I be content with paying $20 for something I still will have to customize to get it to the point where I like it?

That's a question I can't answer just yet, because I haven't taken the figure out of the package. Based on my intial impressions, I'm not sold on these guys yet. That may change, but I don't think jumping all over anyone who doesn't say these are the bees knees is the appropriate reaction either.

[geoffdude]

Can't really comment on the quality, other than to say many people seem to having problems with the production of these, and that's really too bad. After waiting so long, it's a shame things like this happen.

The price however, that's another issue. $19.99 seems very reasonable. Would I like to pay less? You bet. But factor in body, cloth suit, packaging material, shipping etc., and probably lower production numbers of this line compared to most, the cost of $19.99 really seems in line.

Also, prices of all plastic action-figures have jumped 60% or more over the last few years due to oil cost, production/labor cost of factory workers in China and shipping cost increases due to fuel. And, sewing these cloth costumes is probably more expensive than applying a paint shot upon plastic.

Here's a sample of some prices that may put things in persepective:

(1) JLU 4 1/2" figures @ Target = $8.99 per figure:


(2) DCUC figures 6" or so = $15.49 per figure as of current wave:


(3) Marvel Universe 3 3/4" figures = $8.99-$9.99 per figure:


(4) Mattel exclusive online MOTU figure = $20 per figure + $ 8 or so shipping: