Star Trek: Discovery

[Hector]

Now I need to sit down and watch the two i taped before I say anything but that is one take away too. I'm not sure I like the lead character either.

Really enjoy Michelle Yeoh and I think that Doug Jone's character is a real stand out. I love the return of conflict to Star Trek, I dislike TNG because I don't find anyone remotely relate-able in that group (which is the strongest thing about the Orville to me) but Michael wasn't winning me over.

The shoe horning of Sarek into this is also not a favourite. That's such a Star Wars thing, everybody runs into Darth Vader and some how knows Han Solo.

My local station played a half hour of interviews and hype before the show premiered. I was tired and too lazy to find the remote but I honestly think it had a negating effect on me. I need to re-watch the first two free of commercials and distraction.

Ok, here's my honest take.

Let me start right off the bat with you enjoying Michelle Yeoh. I'm right there with you. I have always been a fan of hers, and she seems like a chill captain. I'd gladly serve under her command...she's not a hard arze, yet can be firm. I think she should've been first bill (and I'll get to that in a second), but have a feeling she won't stick around for long...as the Brit guy from Discovery will show up next. I don't think there will be room for two continuing captains, but I hope I'm wrong. I think having two captains and two ships working together would work, make it different and unique.

Yes, Doug Jones rules in anything...and his character is fresh and interesting. Can't wait to see more of him.

Sarek, I didn't mind him, as James Frain is a terrific character actor...I had no problems with him whatsoever...although I agree with you about the Star Wars holographic thing, no need for that here.

I had no problems with the new look of the Klingons, as a matter of fact, I welcomed it. Why rehash the same thing over again? I consider Discovery an alternate reality universe, so differences are fine with me. I also was intrigued how the light-skinned Klingon was discriminated...so the Klingons are into the purity of their race, and see the Federation as a threat, for they are accepting of multi-aliens/cultures...it goes against everything Klingon.

I liked the ship set design, more steampunk metal than the Apple Macintosh look of the new movies. I agree with poster AMrykerw1701...exactly replicating the same look of the original would look silly now, cardboard set with light bulbs. You have to go with the times. The original Star Trek set design worked for the 60s audiences...it wouldnt work with a new show for today's audiences. It has to look more modern than our present day technology. Again, I consider this an alternate reality universe from the original Trek.

I like that the show will be serialized and not episodic...like Game of Thrones, cool

The series is beautifully shot and the special-effects are impressive.

Ok, so reading my post so far, you'd think I love Discovery, and while I'm onboard, and will sign up for CBS Access...there one thing I didn't like, and it's major...the lead character.

Yes, I'm in agreement with you here...I'm not digging Sonequa Martin-Green/First Officer Michael Burnham either. She's the lead, the star...and she's my least favorite character. I didn't like her in the Walking Dead, and I don't like her here. She narrates, and she lacks that commanding voice for that. Now, before any PC Patrol comes here and condemns me for picking on the lone black woman, let me start by saying that's obviously not the reason of course, far from it. You know my history here, I'm always championing minorities in these type of roles. I'm more than fine with a female black lead, I think that's awesome. But she's the wrong actress for it. I just don't like her acting. She's not subtle at all, too emotional, too confrontational, never follows orders, does her own thing. She did the very same thing in the Walking Dead. Notice how she tries to overrule the captain every time she gets a chance. She over explains everything (that part is the writers fault). She constantly goes rogue. She keeps pointing out the obvious, again, like many said here, the dialogue was not the best. She was raised by Sarek and grew up and was educated in Vulcan, yet she's way too emotional. She shouts a lot, and is always angry. Again, it's not the color of her skin, it's the actress herself. I would've much preferred someone like Zendaya (although she's a bit young, but could've been a female Wesley Crusher type), Zoe Kravitz, or someone older with more impressive acting chops like Lupita Amondi Nyong'o. But noooooo, they had to pick Sonequa Martin-Green.

Yes, I'll keep watching despite First Officer Michael being the lead...as I liked the rest enough.

Rant over...for now, lol...

[emeraldknight47]

Too bad Kirk and crew didn't have access to their advanced tech!

Agreed! You have to wonder; did the Vulcans decide Starfleet was becoming too advanced too quickly and just do something to make everyone's technology more retrograde then performed a massive, Federation-wide mind-meld to make everyone forget the advanced tech? LOL!

[LonnieFisher]

Too bad Kirk and crew didn't have access to their advanced tech!

[Hector]

I actually thought the title sequence was impressive.

I thought it was cool too.

[PeterRR]

The show was very dull. Characters were not interesting at all. Why does every star trek series or movie always changing Klingon appearances?

[Sideshow Spock]

My local station played a half hour of interviews and hype before the show premiered. I was tired and too lazy to find the remote but I honestly think it had a negating effect on me. I need to re-watch the first two free of commercials and distraction.

The 2nd ep that I watched on YT was ad-free and thus only 37 minutes long.

So nice.

[palitoy]

The whole Burnham mutiny plot is just preposterous. And I'm not even close to warming to the character.

Now I need to sit down and watch the two i taped before I say anything but that is one take away too. I'm not sure I like the lead character either.

Really enjoy Michelle Yeoh and I think that Doug Jone's character is a real stand out. I love the return of conflict to Star Trek, I dislike TNG because I don't find anyone remotely relate-able in that group (which is the strongest thing about the Orville to me) but Michael wasn't winning me over.

The shoe horning of Sarek into this is also not a favourite. That's such a Star Wars thing, everybody runs into Darth Vader and some how knows Han Solo.

My local station played a half hour of interviews and hype before the show premiered. I was tired and too lazy to find the remote but I honestly think it had a negating effect on me. I need to re-watch the first two free of commercials and distraction.

[Sideshow Spock]

The reviews are are actually trending very positive:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_trek_discovery/s01/

I guess we're just being hard on the old girl

[Mikey]

While reading reviews here and online I can't help but think of an old Chris Farley Tommy Boy quote with a few replaced words...

If you want me to take a sh_t in a box and call it Star Trek - I can do that, I have the time --- but if you want a quality product watch the Orville

[Sideshow Spock]

I watched the 2nd ep via YT (one of those screen in screen deals, not ideal but I'm good with it ), and I was no more impressed than I was with the first. Just felt like a mess. "We Klingons have to band together and fight the Federation to protect our purity and individuality!!"

Um, what?

The whole sudden Burnham mutiny was just preposterous. And I'm not even close to warming to the character.

[drquest]

I recorded it and watched it as well. Did the Klingons have to show up in the first episode? Did they have to be yet another version of Klingon? I can't say anything really grabbed me, the dialog was sluggish I felt, and that didn't match the breakneck speed they were trying to get to the action.

If it was going to be on CBS tv for free I'd probably keep the series recording, but there's no way I'd pay to watch it(I don't watch much broadcast TV and the CBS lineup isn't worth it for me) so I deleted the recording.

[rykerw1701]

I hate to be contrary, but I enjoyed the pilot. I'm old school Trek and all, but I think this worked. The characters were unique enough to be interesting, it invoked traditional Trek without just offering the same old episodes. TNG was terrible its first year or two, this is well ahead of that. 1960's sets and what they could do for technology back then would look ridiculous now. It's not flawless, some of the dialog was eye rolling Lucas-bad, but I'm optimistic.

So I'll pay the $6 per month and ***** about it, but I think it's going to be a good show.

[palitoy]

Am I the only one who didn't care for the title sequence either? I mean, as much as people hated on "ENTERPRISE"'s opening credits, they were, IMHO, light years ahead of this one. The music, while it attempts to hook people in with Alexander Courage's four familiar notes, seems uninspired and boring. The images---whoop-tee-doo; fancy computer-generated animatics and schematics of the ship, a phaser, a spacesuit, a communicator and big, weird flowery thing? Nope, doesn't work for me. At all. Man, this show makes me REALLY glad that THE ORVILLE is on FOX and FREE!

I actually thought the title sequence was impressive.

[Mr.Marion]

Am I the only one who didn't care for the title sequence either? I mean, as much as people hated on "ENTERPRISE"'s opening credits, they were, IMHO, light years ahead of this one. The music, while it attempts to hook people in with Alexander Courage's four familiar notes, seems uninspired and boring. The images---whoop-tee-doo; fancy computer-generated animatics and schematics of the ship, a phaser, a spacesuit, a communicator and big, weird flowery thing? Nope, doesn't work for me. At all. Man, this show makes me REALLY glad that THE ORVILLE is on FOX and FREE!

Yeah what were they thinking with the enterprise theme song? A Rod Stewart cover that sounded 10 years out dated back then. Trek always needs a score there is no way around that.

[The Bat]

It was slightly less horrible than I predicted...so I won't be signing up for CBS's monthly subscription.