Star Wars Force Awakens Spoiler Slumber Party!

[Klosterheim]

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I loved it.

Trailers should have footage taken from the first ten minutes only.

I know one thing can't happen if I know an event hasn't happened yet.

I'm happy to see the movie.

I want to learn more.

Many Return of the Jedi elements.

The victory in Return of the Jedi is lessened, but such is the ways of The Force.

There is no other good way to progress the story.

One scene was a bit Gandalf Vs. Balrog.

Modern, 2015, mannerisms seeped in a little, but I suppose EP.IV had 1970's language and stuff.

Some parts I really, really enjoyed and loved.

Only annoying part was a C3PO moment, which was during a scene- kind of like an Indy/Ravenwood moment.

[bleit1701]

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Not sure how Finn can pick up a lightsaber and effectively battle someone who has trained with one for years and can use the force.. but that's just a nitpick that comes to mind..

I wondered too but when Finn fought his Stormtroopper 'buddy' it seems they both had some kind of staff/sword training. And Kylo seemed not fully trained, in turmoil with his light side and not in control of his emotions. All of which would affect his ability to use the force and give Finn enough of an edge to survive a small battle. He came off as a guy with a lot of power/talent and no one to hone his abilities. It was unclear if Snoke had Force powers or was just manipulative and evil.

[Blue Meanie]

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I think Ray or Rey is Luke and Mara Jade's love child...discuss.

[Sideshow Spock]

Guys, the was meant to indicate that anyone who suggested the movie might be a bomb was a little bit

Yeesh.

[Hector]

Not sure if you are joking or serious. It's already passed 100 million.

I did offer to bet him my toy collection against his on that, lol...

[Hector]

I seriously think this thing might bomb.. :googly

Disagreed one trillion percent.

Wanna bet toy collections?

[Hedji]

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So..... The Force is not strong in Leia?

And we will never see the Han, Luke, and Leia reunited on screen. :(

[samurainoir]

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So do folks think the force sensitive woman handed Luke's lightsaber to Finn because she also sensed the Force in him as well? he seems to handle a lightsaber well, at least holding his own against kylo ren for a few exchanges.

Do you think part two will introduce a love triangle between Poe, Finn and Rey? I'm kind of on board with Finn and Rey, but maybe the conflict in their relationship might be that Rey as a Jedi in training can't devote herself to a relationship (Which is also the reason why I think Luke is not her father)

[samurainoir]

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I think it would be much more compelling if Rey was the daughter of Han and Leia. A brother/sister conflict seems more compelling than cousins in my mind, but I'm still mourning the expanded universe of Jacen and Jaina Solo. I also felt they were kind of hitting us over the head with her being so similar to Han while they were trying to maintain/fly the Falcon, and his offer to give her a job. Her and Leia wordlessly embracing says a lot to me as well... since they are supposed to be "strangers" at that point. Maybe that was the misdirect and she is in fact the daughter of Luke.

If she is their daughter, I wouldn't blame Han and Leia trying to keep the secret from her given what happened to their son.

and from what we know about how early Jedi training begins, I do believe that at the age of 5 or whatever when Ben/Kylo went bad, she might have just begun her training already and that kicked in during her escape and lightsaber fight.

[Sideshow Spock]

He was a trained Stormtrooper, so it's not like he's just some random guy, he knows something.

They still can't hit the broad side of a Bantha with a blaster, maybe they'd all be better off with sabers

[Werewolf]

I seriously think this thing might bomb..

Not sure if you are joking or serious. It's already passed 100 million.

[hedrap]

I think that's a facet of the "too derivative" argument..

Right. It's a reset with no given reason, other than it helps once again setup the heroes as underdogs.

Kylo Ren is roughly "outcast" in Chinese. Rey is "King" in Spanish. Diametrically opposed names, like Yin (female, sun), and Yang (male, shade). Yin/Yang in conflict is how life's energy, Tai-Chi, creates reality.

[drquest]

I think that's a facet of the "too derivative" argument..

Not for me it isn't

[Sideshow Spock]

Another thought, I'd like to have known more about the state of the galaxy. Why after 30 years was the resistance(Rebels) and the First Order(Empire) still operating basically the same as they were before.

I think that's a facet of the "too derivative" argument..

[drquest]

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Here's some thoughts about some of the questions above...

Ren isn't his given name, it's Ben. He's actually Kylo Ren, and the Ren part comes from the Knights of Ren, which is some kind of force sensitive order like the Sith.

I personally think Rey is Luke's daughter.

R2D2 waking up... Again points to Rey being Luke's daughter I think. R2 woke up when she was in the resistance base, maybe R2 knew that, or felt it.

Finn wielding a lightsaber... Well I don't feel he's a Force sensitive person(which I'm kind of glad he isn't because the trailers really lead you to believe that, even the poster did too), but he didn't exactly kick any butt while using it. He was a trained Stormtrooper, so it's not like he's just some random guy, he knows something.

Another thought, I'd like to have known more about the state of the galaxy. Why after 30 years was the resistance(Rebels) and the First Order(Empire) still operating basically the same as they were before.