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  • Hedji
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    I've decided I would've liked the film a LOT better without the death of that character. It really crushed me. Haven't been so moved by a character death since 1982 (Spock, E.T.)

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  • mikeMc6
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    I agree. They made a mistake there. Could be the single worst choice in the movie.
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    Yeah, that's what gets me, too...I can understand the logic of their decision to do away with someone (age of actor, maybe said participant only would do one movie, lack of any memorial by other characters kept less people in the know during the making of movie thus preserving secret, etc., giving room for the new young actors to take the reins)
    but it just seemed so mean spirited a demise, twisting painful death before mission was successfully completed (no heroic sendoff, character dies not knowing if their death was for a WON noble cause)...and the one character's almost complete non-reaction (in regards to screen time shown) over the death really showed the lack of heart at this movie's core...even if there is no body and a slight chance of movie magic ressurection...no screen time for any grieving leaves audience reeling in a bad way (reeling can be a great thing). Unintentionally felt like a **** you to anyone who cared about that character (which was 99% of the world). I don't mind that an icon of the movie is killed, it is the perfunctory and gratuitous manner that disappoints me.
    My 11 year old son and I were OK and enjoyed everything thus far, loopholes and all, until that part...

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    Here's a decent read on some thoughts on the movie....

    http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-...ered-questions

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  • huedell
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    Very little reflection or memorial on screen for that situation, which left me cold. Oh well.
    I agree. They made a mistake there. Could be the single worst choice in the movie.

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  • mikeMc6
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    I am glad I saw the movie opening night with my 11 year old son...I enjoyed it for what it was, felt gut punched as well by the surprise at the end but I am happy that I watched the movie without knowing any spoilers...facebook has been a meansprited dungeon of trolling spoiler ****ers and I'm amazed at the meanspiritedness of people inserting pivotal spoiler images in non movie posts...terrible.

    I watched the movie, marveled at some scenes, grimaced at others, laughed many times (thank god) and ultimately found it enjoyable on a superficial level. That surprise near the end seemed to suck the energy out of the viewing audience I was in with. Very little reflection or memorial on screen for that situation, which left me cold. Oh well.

    Very enjoyable young cast.

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  • huedell
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    Han Solo should've chopped that long bridge that he and Kylo were on with a Thuggee machete.
    Jokes aside, I had to believe there was an "Indy chased by boulder" cinematically planned homage moment in the scene with the big alien creatures coming after him. Looked like it to me anyway.

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    Originally posted by rche

    Favorite part of the movie was when Rey and Finn were babbling and congratulating themselves. That brought me back to 1977 and the original character emotional schizophrenia.

    I really like their chemistry; good casting throughout. Also, I'm OK with Rey without Finn, but I didn't care for Finn without Rey. Finn & Poe work well, too. Still...none of the new heroes have the swagger of Han Solo. Need to add that.
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    Saw it today and loved it. While I get the "reboot" vibe, I forgive it just for being able to see these characters who are are like seeing old friends again. The two minor issues I did have, Rey figuring out her powers a bit quickly and Kylo Ren having some trouble with Finn, I also forgive since it's all done to move the story along. Disney had a lot they needed to accomplish here and had to do a delicate balancing act to do it. They pulled it off IMO. I also cannot overstate what it meant to see these characters again. I was choked up a good part of the film whenever the old guard was featured. One other point as far as things being "the same". To a large portion of the audience myself included THIS is Star Wars. take it to far off the path and it's just anothe movie with the Star Wars name.

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  • Hedji
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    Was that Coruscant that got destroyed? So there is no Galactic Capitol? That was unclear to me.

    I don't see how the death of ******** couldn't have an impact on a viewer. It was dramatic. It was family related. People throw around the "George Lucas raped my childhood", but truly, wasn't it JJ Abrahms who did so? I say that half-in-jest, but in order to enjoy and accept this film, you are forced to divorce yourself from the "Happily Ever After" that you imagined when the Ewoks were celebrating.

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  • Remco Monster
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    Saw it this afternoon. It was everything a SW film should be, unlike the horrible prequels. Had a very original trilogy feel. Can't wait to see it again.

    P.S. Rey, Poe, and Finn were all excellent!

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    Well, I have not seen the movie just yet...but for all my esteemed fellow Megoheads who are complaining that it's derivative...

    The Associated Press: "Basically the same as the original film, but isn't that what we all wanted anyway?

    Exactly...


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  • samurainoir
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    Another thought, I'd like to have known more about the state of the galaxy. Why after 30 years was the resistance(Rebels) and the First Order(Empire) still operating basically the same as they were before.
    I thought it was the opposite. The First Order was a much smaller force than the Resistance, which is why they ran from them upon their arrival. The First Order big gun evened up the playing field by presumably taking out the Senate and all their support infrastructure. Leaving behind Leia and co, which was essentially a remnant that was tasked with playing clean-up around splinter groups like the First Order? Now with the seat of power/central government gone, it's the wild wild west for the next two movies.

    Going to be seeing it again in an hour... hoping to pick up more that I missed last time.

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  • YoungOnce
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    Yeah... Every Star Wars movie is basically about a prophecy about someone bringing balance to the force. I always thought Annakin was bringing balance to the force when he started killing all of the Jedi. At that point, there were way more Jedi than Sith. He brought "balance" to the force by destroying them all. In the end, there was Yoda and Obi Wan left on one side, Palpatine and Vader on the other side... Balance restored... Prophecy fulfilled! (Just not the way they thought...)

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  • Klosterheim
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    Maybe I wasn't listening closely enough, but I don't remember hearing as many of the familiar John Williams Star Wars motifs in the soundtrack... I thought it was a pretty good blend of practical and CGI effects... Yes, the story was familiar but like someone else mentioned, that could be intentionally to show how fate keeps going through this cycle, trying to achieve "balance" in the force... There were some good beats in the story, nothing ground-breaking for sure, but one big miss for me was the death of (you know who...). It just didn't resonate in the emotional way that I wished it had. There was no weight to it. This character had evaded death so many times by being clever, lucky and smart. Anybody could have seen this betrayal coming and I felt like the character (especially this character) deserved a more glorified demise. Maybe the payoff worked for some, but I left feeling like it should have been much, much more.
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    At least it wasn't a suicide attack run.
    I somewhat feel that way, but no matter what the writers create, it will always be like killing off Captain Kirk in generations. It will never seem a greater purpose.
    If the situation was based on the character's skills, then the character is triumphant, but when faced with only one solution to the problem, the character can not escape it if the solution fails. Everything went in favor of the Dark Side for a moment and that was it.

    It all fit together well, though.

    I had a feeling that the new movie would be the new 'Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back' with some beatings and defeats, the other two films should have training and a cliffhanger for VIII and a larger victory than any of the movies in IX.
    With the restoration of The Galactic Republic and new Jedi Temples.

    To achieve true balance, they would need to negotiate to have Sith Temples everywhere and allow 50% of the star systems to be governed by evil dictators.

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  • YoungOnce
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    Maybe I wasn't listening closely enough, but I don't remember hearing as many of the familiar John Williams Star Wars motifs in the soundtrack... I thought it was a pretty good blend of practical and CGI effects... Yes, the story was familiar but like someone else mentioned, that could be intentionally to show how fate keeps going through this cycle, trying to achieve "balance" in the force... There were some good beats in the story, nothing ground-breaking for sure, but one big miss for me was the death of (you know who...). It just didn't resonate in the emotional way that I wished it had. There was no weight to it. This character had evaded death so many times by being clever, lucky and smart. Anybody could have seen this betrayal coming and I felt like the character (especially this character) deserved a more glorified demise. Maybe the payoff worked for some, but I left feeling like it should have been much, much more.

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