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  • palitoy
    live. laugh. lisa needs braces
    • Jun 16, 2001
    • 59764

    Six Ways Colin Baker got screwed

    Topless Robot - 6 Ways the Sixth Doctor from Doctor Who Got Screwed

    Good read, the Michael Grade thing is awful.
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  • david_b
    Never had enough toys..
    • May 9, 2008
    • 2305

    #2
    Thanks much Palitoy. Excellent read.. It serves to remind me why I stopped watching when Peter Davison left.

    I recall feeling the 'best of days' had long since gone.
    Peace.. Through Superior Firepower.

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    • palitoy
      live. laugh. lisa needs braces
      • Jun 16, 2001
      • 59764

      #3
      Heh, I got pretty badly beaten up during Davison's first season but I liked him and hoped the series would improve. I stayed right up until "Caves" then didn't even bother with Baker's debut.

      I just stopped watching Doctor Who, when I would flick it on, I'd turn it off pretty quick.

      After the drought of the hiatus, I started watching "Trial" with one eye and noticed Colin's Doctor becoming more likable and eventually I was back on track for the McCoy era.

      Now, I view those Baker years as a time capsule I left for myself.
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      • jds1911a1
        Alan Scott is the best GL
        • Aug 8, 2007
        • 3556

        #4
        Big Finsh really let Colin's Doctor shine in a way JNT never could

        The NJN scene with Pat is actually very tongue in cheek as they were very good freinds off camera. Colin was a boyhood fan od Pat's Doctor and he was David Troughton's roomate after drama school (I beleive he was part of David's wedding party) and Pat had known him for 20 years before ever being cast as the 6th doctor. It was the high point of his tenure to do the 2 doctors with Pat.
        Last edited by jds1911a1; Jan 12, '11, 9:45 AM.

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        • david_b
          Never had enough toys..
          • May 9, 2008
          • 2305

          #5
          Really..? Except for his episode with Troughton and struggling to get through the 'Cybermen' appearance, I hadn't frankly watched much of Colin. Only watched a few minutes of McCoy.

          I'll have to check out "Trial" someday.
          Peace.. Through Superior Firepower.

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          • Surfsup
            Silver Chrome Dome
            • Dec 2, 2005
            • 1352

            #6
            That was a cool read and very good viewing, thanks Brian. I actually thought that Michael Grade made perfect sense for the reasons to axe it. He could have given them more money but it would have been like polishing a turd with that production team.

            I quite liked Colin Baker at the time, thinking he was a refreshing change from Peter Davidson. That all changed when Trial of A Timelord aired, man that was awful! You really have to feel for the guy!

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            • jds1911a1
              Alan Scott is the best GL
              • Aug 8, 2007
              • 3556

              #7
              Originally posted by david_b
              Really..? Except for his episode with Troughton and struggling to get through the 'Cybermen' appearance, I hadn't frankly watched much of Colin. Only watched a few minutes of McCoy.

              I'll have to check out "Trial" someday.
              Trial is really not the best example of Colin's work (as a 14 parter it's a real commitment)
              Timelash and 2 Doctors are my favorites
              Attack of the Cybermen isn't bad but the plot holes of are massive. I really don't like Revelation of the Daleks but its useful a precursor to remebrance of the Daleks with Mccoy)

              Twin Dilemma is pretty awful but then most regeneration stories aren't great anyway

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              • Mikey
                Verbose Member
                • Aug 9, 2001
                • 47258

                #8
                For set design and production i've found the McCoy era the absolute low point of the series ... Much of the McCoy era seems to have been filmed using a standard handheld off the shelf camcorder.

                Colin's era was at the very least a little more pretty than McCoy's

                Good read

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                • SlipperyLilSuckers
                  MeGoing
                  • May 14, 2003
                  • 9031

                  #9
                  Interesting read thanks Brian.

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                  • LonnieFisher
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Jan 19, 2008
                    • 10994

                    #10
                    I really like Colin as the Doctor!

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                    • samurainoir
                      Eloquent Member
                      • Dec 26, 2006
                      • 18758

                      #11
                      I never saw any Colin Baker episodes, but from what little I do know, there were a couple of the perks of his tenure...


                      What did Peter Davidson have to look forward to? A kid in Pajamas? A girl from a planet where victorian clothing was too immodest? A robot puppet?
                      Last edited by samurainoir; Jan 12, '11, 5:05 PM.
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                      • Godzilla
                        Permanent Member
                        • Nov 3, 2002
                        • 3009

                        #12
                        I lived through the Colin Baker era once and that was enough.
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                        • Werewolf
                          Inhuman
                          • Jul 14, 2003
                          • 14957

                          #13
                          I'm not a hardcore Dr. Who fan by any stretch but I did watch the Tom Baker era religiously as a kid. Started to lose interest after he left and the Colin Baker era was the killer for me. All I remember of it was the Dr had become an unlikable doughy looking man stuffed into a hedious clown suit. Haven't really watched Who since. I did like the 1996 made for TV movie though.
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                          • bobws
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 13, 2008
                            • 3479

                            #14
                            I Liked Colin as the Doctor, from reading Doctor Who magazine i realizedthey were trying to make him darker and were going to later soften him up. they just didn't really get the chance to do all that. not with Micheal Grade trying to kill thje show. yes the costume is rediculous , but he was good in the rloe.
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                            • johnmiic
                              Adrift
                              • Sep 6, 2002
                              • 8427

                              #15
                              That was a good read Brian!

                              Tho the suit was hideous there was no way any producer was going to let The Doctor wear all Black in the 1980's. Chris Ecclestion got to wear all black but he was wearing what looked like street clothes-not a costume.

                              It's only a symptom of the greater problem the show had in the `80's. Internally many seemed to be working against the show and Colin. The controller, the producer and the story editor were all making the show worse. Only 2 of those problems could have been fixed. Michael Grade probably would still have axed the show.

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