STAR TREK is BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

[David Lee]

Star Trek: Or why George Lucas is a Galactic doofus...

I couldn't agree more with the positives stated here. I too was always more of a Star Wars guy in my youth, and kind of came to TOS later on, through my dad, who always prefered Trek. He and I watched it on TV when I was as a kid, and I loved and still love the animated series (classic stuff!). But, this really re-invigorated me on the whole franchise, in a way I had hope Star Wars would have. It just made sense, it kept the spirit in tact and let go of the continuity a bit. Fanboys and Trekers will quibble over the detes, but I went home and dusted off TOS and couldn't be happier...

[Mikey]

But from what i'm reading here i'm gathering that the original series and everything afterward never happened in the new Trek franchise.

If this is true, I don't think I like that.

Does anyone else feel a loss of something ?

A "parallel universe" scenerio would be ok with me because my old Star Trek still exists SOMEWHERE out there in space and/or time.

[ctc]

>Does anyone else feel a loss of something ?

Well.... I always feel with something like Trek that it's a waste to reboot stuff. The history and backstory are such a HUGE piece of the franchaise it's a shame to not use them. Especially since instead of a reboot of established story you could do a whole new story set anywhere in the timeline.

>A "parallel universe" scenerio would be ok with me

That kinda bugs me too. It's a cop-out; the same one superhero comics have used for decades. A "parallel universe" setup lets them reboot with impunity. But I'm wondering; is the new film OFFICIALLY a "parallel world" or is this the way the fans are explaining it?

Don C.

[Mikey]

I keep thinking if Spock went back in time and this new movie IS the way the timeline is now running, the original series is now not canon in the Star Trek universe.

The original series is now literally in the same catagory as the Animated Series.

How can ANYONE have enough gall to make the original series non-canon ?

[darklord1967]

But I'm wondering; is the new film OFFICIALLY a "parallel world" or is this the way the fans are explaining it?

Don C.

Nope. It is NOT a fan explanation. It is an official parallel universe.

The very presence of time-travelling Leonard Nimoy Spock and his memories of a reality where James T. Kirk "...has been and always shall be..." his friend prove it is so.

Basically, Abrams used the very rules of STAR TREK Time-travel and parallel universes to re-boot the franchise. Flawlessly, perfectly... logical.

And YET the presence of Old Spock in this new timeline allows the ORiginal Series continuity to remain official STAR TREK cannon.

Friggin' brilliant!

[jessica]

Aw fudge. My wig is not expected to come until 5/18. Hate that. Oh well. I'll just have to wait until then to get my Uhura on.

[EMCE Hammer]

Nope. It is NOT a fan explanation. It is an official parallel universe.

The very presence of time-travelling Leonard Nimoy Spock and his memories of a reality where James T. Kirk "...has been and always shall be..." his friend prove it is so.

Basically, Abrams used the very rules of STAR TREK Time-travel and parallel universes to re-boot the franchise. Flawlessly, perfectly... logical.

And YET the presence of Old Spock in this new timeline allows the ORiginal Series continuity to remain official STAR TREK cannon.

Friggin' brilliant!

I'm not as ecstatic about it as you are, but I don't know how else they could have continued forward with TOS. At least this way I can get to see new adventures with Kirk and co, sorta. To me that's a better option than another bland prequel or the next, next generation. It's either this or CGI and voice impersonators.

[Hector]

I don't think I like that.

Like you needed further convincing.

[Hector]

I usually fall asleep with your long-winded posts, Darkloard...but this last one was truly a MASTERPIECE.

Well done my friend.

[Hector]

You want campy, corny, and plain sad?

Look no further...the row-row your boat trio are here...

YouTube - Kirk, Spock and McCoy go camping!

[Werewolf]

You want campy, corny, and plain sad?

Look no further...the row-row your boat trio are here...

YouTube - Kirk, Spock and McCoy go camping!

I actually like that scene. I think it's fun.

[Captain]

I prefer to think the new film is set in a different continuity or parallel universe too. Even the excuse that the Narada and Spock coming back changed things from the original time line doesnt really wash, because the Kelvin and its crew dont fall into old Canon either. The uniforms dont fit, nor does a single nacelle warp vehicle.

I like to think the new movie fits into the timeline that the Enterprise film started. I believe the alternate timeline leading into Enterprise really started when Capt. Baldy..err...I mean Picard came back in time with the Borg to screw up Cochranes first warp flight. This started a new branch of continuity, different and distinct from the classic original series time line.Makes sense, and it allows us old farts to keep our Trek, while leaving a place for the new one to grow.

[The Bat]

But from what i'm reading here i'm gathering that the original series and everything afterward never happened in the new Trek franchise.

No...that's not what happened. The Attack and destruction of the U.S.S. Kelvin(and the death of Kirk's Father)created a "devergant timeline". The original Series timeline still exists...and young Spock draws this very conclusion. Also...the fact that old Spock still remembers his timeline, is proof that it still exists.

[darklord1967]

I usually fall asleep with your long-winded posts, Darkloard...but this last one was truly a MASTERPIECE.

Well done my friend.

"Long-winded"???? HEY!!!!!! I resemble that remark!!!!

Might I suggest taking two "No-Doze" pills prior to reading one of my long posts? It might help you stay awake. And who knows? You might find something worthwhile that I've written.

In all seriousness, I thank you for your compliment Hec. I'd knew YOU'D get it.

[Hector]