Do prequels rob us of our memories and imagination ?

[Gorn Captain]

Question,

English/American etc movies shown in Belgium theatres are dubbed, correct ?

If so, isn't it really annoying for people like you who speak English to have to watch a dubbed version in the movie theatre ?

The Flemish never dub movies, except kids movies (which are shown dubbed or original). Most other countries in Europe dub.
Some French/Germans/Italians have never heard original voices. Can you imagine?
And they always use the same voice actors, so Arnold Schwarzenegger sounds like Woody Allen.....

[Mikey]

Interesting.

[rche]

Answering the original question posted for this thread. No, modern interpretations of myths, either classic or from my childhood, do not detract from what I imagined as a child.

All of the Harryhausen flicks I saw did not change the way I originally imagined Medusa or any other Greek/Roman idea which I first came across reading and looking at kids encyclopedias with my mom. (anybody remember Childcraft?). They are merely different interpretations of those classic tales. The first version of Arthurian myth I saw traslated to film was Camelot. Dancing and singing Knights of the round table? How about the Python Arthur? Did that damage your vision of the once and future king?

Anyone who was a kid in the 40s and grew up reading the Kane/Finger Batman probably looked at the Adam West campy thing and said 'that ain't my Batman'. Just that same as a kid who watched the 1966 show would look at the Dark Knight flick and wonder why they made the Joker so dam mean. It really is just different writers and takes on the character. A small part of the whole.

As for Star Wars specifically, there is a pile of stuff written in as canon for the Star Wars universe from comics to rpg to novels that is considered 'official'. You know Chewbacca is dead, right? None of that has any direct bearing as to how I envisioned these things as a kid. Perhaps it is because of the relative youth of these characters as myth that makes folks polarize around the changes in the 'official' Lucas released movies and such.

The opening line in SW is pretty powerful stuff for the imagination. A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away opens up a pretty broad expanse for storytelling. Perhaps one of the most brilliant moves in the original story. So what if Lucas turned it into 'that weird codependant family around the corner'. He did that by the time Jedi came around. The power of the imagination and the scope of the canvas was already laid out.

So, back to the original question. - Nope, hasn't changed my thoughts on one of my favorite movies and pop culture phenoms. But I sure do wish they would have gotten someone else to play young Vader. I am sure Lucas will see to that in his 2016 all digital remakes.

rche

[rche]

...
Some French/Germans/Italians have never heard original voices. Can you imagine?
And they always use the same voice actors, so Arnold Schwarzenegger sounds like Woody Allen.....

awesome! that is one of the best mental pictures I have had in quite a while.

[johnnystorm]

Chewie's dead?

I did not know that.

[Mikey]

Chewie's dead?

I did not know that.

I heard he choked on a ham sandwich

[rche]

I heard he choked on a ham sandwich

I heard it was a han sammich.

[Mikey]

I heard it was a han sammich.

Nice one

[johnnystorm]

Guess he should have CHEWED his food better.


You guys crack me up!

[YANOULI]

I agree, the prequels totally naffed up the Vader and Boba Fett origins.
Annakin was " weak minded " and unaware of Palpatines " Jedi mind tricks " on him. He was no better than the stormtroopers Ben fooled in Mos Eisley.

When Ben told Luke that his father fought in the Clone wars i always had this idea of the republic and the Jedi's fighting clones, not the clones being the Republic army. That part of the prequels was a bit of a let down.

Also, Fetts armour was described somewhere as being used by a band of warriors who fought against the Jedi in the wars, i was disappointed not to see hordes of Mandalorians running ( or flying ) around.

Question,

English/American etc movies shown in Belgium theatres are dubbed, correct ?

If so, isn't it really annoying for people like you who speak English to have to watch a dubbed version in the movie theatre ?

Talking about English language movies in foreign cinemas, when i was visiting my girlfriend in Russia we went to see Shakespeare in love, it was in English with Russian subtitles. I never understood why it wasn't dubbed.

[Iron_fox85]

It changes things, but my love of starwars hasn't changed.

[huedell]

Chewie's dead?

I did not know that.

Well...in theory..."everyone's dead"

It's a fictional world that travels any amount of years into the past
OR the future in order to add to the STAR WARS "saga".

When Chewie "died" a few years back in one of the numerous Luke/Han/Leia
sequels---there was a big fan uproar that I never really understood.

Everyone has to die eventually.

No one questions about the billions of Chewie stories that take place
before Chewie was even born

[Mikey]

Speaking of Chewbocker

Question:

Why did he seem to not remember anything that happened in ROTS in the classic trilogy ?

Also, with all that hair on his ^ss .... wouldn't he have to bathe everytime he's done taking a crap ?

[MIB41]

The way I see these films, Star Wars 1977 is the original classic and everything after that has been Star Wars II, III, IV, V, and VI. Just because the director chooses to call some "sequels" while others "prequels" doesn't change the fact they are his next attempt to use the same characters to tell a different story. As with most followups, the material becomes diluted and less interesting as the attempts become too familiar with overworked ideas that have very few twists left. From my perspective going back was a mistake, because it attempts to provide answers to generations of fans who have created their own image of Anakin Skywalker. As with any great villian, less is more when it comes to background information. Keeping a villian mysterious is the essence of his appeal and Darth Vader went from being the epitome of great theatrical villians to becoming little more than a whiny, misunderstood brat - something view envisioned when they 'filled in the blanks' during the 1977 classic.

At the end of the day it's simply science fiction, so you have to decide what counts and what doesn't. Often times your age will determine where that assessment lies. If you were like me and grew up watching the originals in the theaters, you understand how different the first three were from these last three. It wasn't JUST because I was young when they came out either. Back in it's true heyday, Star Wars was the gold brand of movie making. It meant ground breaking, award winning, film making. It was THE standard by which no films could measure. There was no competition with Star Wars. When the "next generation" of films came out the expectation was quickly lost when Menace was anything but original. And each subsequent film only underscored the realization that Lucas was past his best years in movie making. It might have been the same name, but it no longer carried the gold brand of movie making and was routinely sweeped at the Oscars by other, more inventive, films. So while new generations of fans could enjoy the next installment, the truth was the original glow and epic feel of the originals were gone (as were the fine actors that breathed life into those classic heroes).

[huedell]

Speaking of Chewbocker

Question:

Why did he seem to not remember anything that happened in ROTS in the classic trilogy ?

You must have missed the Vader/Chewie interrogation scene
in Ep. IV (NEW HOPE):

"Hey fur-ball...you remember mitocholorians...don't you!?" SMACK! "Answer me!" SMACK! "Answer me, or I cut off your beard!" SMACK!

Or how about the Yoda reunion scene in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK?:

"Ahh Chewbacca, happy I am you visiting me in Dagobah.
Have some food, then leave so prank I can play on that
hothead Jedi never I liked's son."