5th time is not a charm for Mark David Chapman

[Cosmicman]

When does this monster learn that he'll never see the light of day?

Mark David Chapman Denied Parole for Fifth Time Feature Story

[Mikey]

30+ years later --- I still can't believe nobody ever picked him off.

[david_b]

That no one has picked him off is actually surprising to me, much the same way as the ever-charming and talented Mr. Manson.. Chapman'll never see freedom.

david_b

[Vortigern99]

I still can't believe nobody ever picked him off....

"Chapman is housed in an isolated facility clear from any other prisoners in order to ensure his safety in the facility"

[Cosmicman]

30+ years later --- I still can't believe nobody ever picked him off.

If I had the chance. I would kill this man. I would never say that about any human being but this man because he took so much from me and many others.

Mark David Chapman literally robbed the world of one of the greatest men of our time.

For that, there should be no forgiveness. He is really lucky to be alive.

He really is.

[toys2cool]

I thought he was dead already

[Cosmicman]

I thought he was dead already

We are not that fortunate. This scum bag has been in prison since the early 1980s. The fact he is still alive is very unfortunate.
What is sad, he is in minimum security. He gets to have a sex with his wife on a regular basis and come and go from the property as long as he has some kind of security with him.

This ******* should be rotting in hell as far as I am concerned. He should get no privileges and he should be beaten on a regular basis just for being alive.

You have no idea how much this man's name along ****es me off.

Mark David Chapman

[Vortigern99]

Jesus.

I understand your anger, Wrathdemon, but Good Heavens, man. Homicidal rage is bit much to take on an otherwise pleasant Wednesday afternoon.

[Mikey]

I hate Chapman's guts .......

But truthfully, he would have been free YEARS ago if he just killed a normal everyday joe like us.

Lennon himself would probably bring this up (if he was still with us)

[Cosmicman]

What should have happened is that he should have been set free the next day.
I big anouncment should have been made on every station when and where.
He should have been dressed in bright orange.
Nature would have taken its course.

I like your idea but have some Reality TV Show follow him around so the whole country gets to watch him get slaughtered. I would pay to see that.
The first two episodes would be fun to watch Mark trying to outrun a mob of people. It would be like Peter in that episode of Family Guy when he insulted that mob of African Americans and they were chasing him down the street.

[Cosmicman]

Jesus.

I understand your anger, Wrathdemon, but Good Heavens, man. Homicidal rage is bit much to take on an otherwise pleasant Wednesday afternoon.

You have no idea.
John Lennon was my hero as a child and growing up in my life.

There was something horrid and disturbing turning on the news at a young age and seeing your hero shot to death in the doorway of his building complex.

It has left an unsettling feeling in my soul that I would never be able to repair.

[Vortigern99]

Look, err... what makes you think I have "no idea"?

I adore John, and have since an early age. (This is not a contest, I'm just stating the facts.) My sister and I loved the Beatles, and in late 1980 had spent the last several weeks before John was shot relishing his new record, Double Fantasy, which my sister got for her birthday. We were devastated by John's murder. As was our mother, who had loved the Beatles when she was a teenager and a young woman. The three of us watched the televised vigil that December, around the time of my own birthday, and cried our eyes out in sorrow and confusion.

But wishing death on someone, even a person you deem to be evil or unredeemable, is just wrong. Good Lord, you're fantasizing about televising his murder at the hands of an angry mob. You don't know what plans God or the Universe might have for this person, and it's not up to you to decide when and under what circumstances anyone should die.

[toys2cool]

Look, err... what makes you think I have "no idea"?

I adore John, and have since an early age. (This is not a contest, I'm just stating the facts.) My sister and I loved the Beatles, and in late 1980 had spent the last several weeks before John was shot relishing his new record, Double Fantasy, which my sister got for her birthday. We were devastated by John's murder. As was our mother, who had loved the Beatles when she was a teenager and a young woman. The three of us watched the televised vigil that December, around the time of my own birthday, and cried our eyes out in sorrow and confusion.

But wishing death on someone, even a person you deem to be evil or unredeemable, is just wrong. Good Lord, you're fantasizing about televising his murder at the hands of an angry mob. You don't know what plans God or the Universe might have for this person, and it's not up to you to decide when and under what circumstances anyone should die.

I know what you mean,but if someone killed my hero I'd wish death upon him as well

Or look at that guy that was posted here today about raping and killing the 6 year old.I would'nt wish death upon him,but I'd like to be the one pulling the switch on the chair when he gets it

[huedell]

Hey Wrath---I too understand your pain and frustration---

but I can also understand Vort's posts regarding yours....

your words come off (to me) as relatively careless (bordering on irrational)
about issues that are very important---

life---death---heroes----justice

That's just my take.

Then again, I'm the type of guy who could only see myself snapping
and become a thorough killing machine only if two people in my life were
murdered----and, even with saying that----if it actually happened---
I don't know HOW I'd exactly manifest my feelings

That being said---this Chapman is an interesting case study to me, him
having comitted this murder---BASICALLY to create threads just like this one.

His goal was "FAME"

and he got exactly what he wanted by killing one of history's BIGGEST icons.

Its an amazing story.

[Vortigern99]

I'm reminded of two things here -- both of them, predictably, about Batman.

The first is that I accord with the viewpoint of the Batman as represented in DC Comics since the late 60s: that criminals, including murderers, should be brought to justice, punished for their crimes via incarceration, and removed from society for a period of time commensurate with their crime. Muderers should be put away for life with no chance of parole. Killing in any instance is morally wrong.

The second is that in the recent Batman movie, a seemingly callous and self-interested citizen proclaims that he will push the button that will kill hundreds of incarcerated criminals and pre-empt his own presumptive death... but at the last moment, the citizen finds he cannot push that button, as he realizes the implication of what he is about to do.

Saying or thinking or believing you will act a certain way is very different from actually meeting that moment and acting from your center. You might find, in the moment, that mercy is more important, after all, than senseless vengeance designed only to make you feel better.