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  • huedell
    Museum Ball Eater
    • Dec 31, 2003
    • 11069

    #61
    Originally posted by toys2cool
    here ya go,not there's anything wrong with bald,but for Superman I expect a little better
    http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...ndanfraser.jpg
    Hmmm t2cool---according to your post(s) there CERTAINLY is something
    wrong with being bald...

    It seems that that automatically negates you for certain roles in
    certain people's eyes (like yourself) even though Hollywood quality wigs
    can perfectly eliminate any problem with appearance.

    Besides the fact that he's too old---if you took that away---and based
    potential for the role solely on his follicle count---it'd be a shame to take the
    opportunity away because in "real life" he lost his hair when it could be fixed up fine for
    a movie....i.e. not "real life"

    EDITED TO ADD: I needed to "google" to confirm something just now
    that I've heard about for years...that Reeve wore wigs in all 4 Superman movies---

    Here's an excerpt from some guys blog who had visited the "real life" Superman Museum:

    "...no Superman Museum would be complete without a collection of wigs.
    Not Lex Luthor's, mind you, but rather the wigs worn by Christopher Reeve.
    Apparently the hair of a mere mortal wasn't capable of recreating that
    Kryptonian cowlick up front."
    Last edited by huedell; Jul 24, '08, 2:35 PM.
    "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #62
      Originally posted by huedell
      Hmmm t2cool---according to your post(s) there CERTAINLY is something
      wrong with being bald...
      No, nothing wrong with being bald or losing your hair (like me for instance).

      But I do NOT like dudes covering up their head with fake fur or plugs in real life...big difference.

      That's a sign of insecurity and having a complex...and I don't want Supes to fall into that category.

      Thank you and God bless.
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      • huedell
        Museum Ball Eater
        • Dec 31, 2003
        • 11069

        #63
        Originally posted by Hector
        No, nothing wrong with being bald or losing your hair (like me for instance).

        But I do NOT like dudes covering up their head with fake fur or plugs in real life...big difference.

        That's a sign of insecurity and having a complex...and I don't want Supes to fall into that category.

        Thank you and God bless.
        You're not getting off that easy

        a) You're a big Reeve fan and it's known he's worn wigs to play
        the Man Of Steel...

        and

        b) What does what an actor does OUTSIDE of the role
        have absolutely anything to do with what he does onscreen (in this
        case regarding wigs)

        You're saying there's "nothing wrong" with being bald---yet you quickly
        contradict yourself by ruling out a baldie for playing Superman (under
        the right circumstances otherwise of course)---so obviously
        there IS something wrong with being bald---- according to you guys.
        "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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        • Captain
          Fighting the good fight!
          • Jun 17, 2001
          • 6031

          #64
          I think if they are going to reboot the franchise with the next film (which they need to do!) they pretty much have to go with an entirely new cast.....and lose the speedos Superman suit from returns. There is nothing wrong with the classic look suit, like Reeves wore. Supes is invulnerable and doesnt need rubber body armor, etc. He's a geek with incredible powers wearing a suit his mother made him....Thats the look he should keep.

          I think the Hulk movie is a perfect example of why an all new cast is needed. This film was acres and miles better than the last one, but didnt do enough to publicly distance itself from its predecessor (although the cast WAS all different). Supes needs to make sure everbody is aware its a new take on the project....ala Batman Begins. Re-using any of the same people might make it more difficult to do this!
          "Crayons taste like purple!"

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          • The Bat
            Batman Fanatic
            • Jul 14, 2002
            • 13412

            #65
            If I can't have Welling as Supes...I still think Routh is a decent 2nd choice.
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            • huedell
              Museum Ball Eater
              • Dec 31, 2003
              • 11069

              #66
              Originally posted by Captain
              I think if they are going to reboot the franchise with the next film (which they need to do!) they pretty much have to go with an entirely new cast.....and lose the speedos Superman suit from returns. There is nothing wrong with the classic look suit, like Reeves wore. Supes is invulnerable and doesnt need rubber body armor, etc. He's a geek with incredible powers wearing a suit his mother made him....Thats the look he should keep.

              I think the Hulk movie is a perfect example of why an all new cast is needed. This film was acres and miles better than the last one, but didnt do enough to publicly distance itself from its predecessor (although the cast WAS all different). Supes needs to make sure everbody is aware its a new take on the project....ala Batman Begins. Re-using any of the same people might make it more difficult to do this!
              They certainly do not "have to" reboot the Superman franchise
              ---I mean, that may be your opinion, and, if so, then carry on
              ----but let's look at the financial and public reception facts:

              SUPERMAN RETURNS made 200 million American box office
              and scored a respectable 77 percent with critics at ROTTEN TOMATOES.

              Ang Lee's HULK only made 132 million and scored significantly less with
              critics with a 61 percent RT rating.

              I thought SPERMAN RETURNS was great---and if they make this
              MAN OF STEEL Routh sequel---they will be making a smart move in
              my estimation.

              HULK was a much better case of a franchise "needing" a reboot---
              SUPERMAN RETURNS was enough of a success, they'd be better off
              taking an "if it ain't broke" attitude and see how a second try pans out.
              "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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              • Dave Mc
                Administrator
                • Oct 20, 2002
                • 17827

                #67
                Like others have said, I thought Routh was okay. He had the look, just didn't like the suit.

                As for Welling, there would be something cool for Smallville fans to see that crew advance to films as Superman when the show is over. I'm not sure how he would come off as Superman.

                I do know one thing, of all the Lex Luthor's I've seen (and disliked, I've never liked that character much in the past) the Smallville version made me a fan of that villian. Lex, in movie form is always brilliant yet bumbling. It just never worked for me. If someone is that brilliant, why surround himself with such idiots? The Smallville version of Luthor was what made me pay attention to the show. Put that version of Lex in a movie and it would make it easier for me to buy into the thing no matter who wore the cape.

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                • The Bat
                  Batman Fanatic
                  • Jul 14, 2002
                  • 13412

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Dave Mc
                  Like others have said, I thought Routh was okay. He had the look, just didn't like the suit.

                  As for Welling, there would be something cool for Smallville fans to see that crew advance to films as Superman when the show is over. I'm not sure how he would come off as Superman.

                  I do know one thing, of all the Lex Luthor's I've seen (and disliked, I've never liked that character much in the past) the Smallville version made me a fan of that villian. Lex, in movie form is always brilliant yet bumbling. It just never worked for me. If someone is that brilliant, why surround himself with such idiots? The Smallville version of Luthor was what made me pay attention to the show. Put that version of Lex in a movie and it would make it easier for me to buy into the thing no matter who wore the cape.

                  Well put Dave...Rosenbaum plays the Character, note PERFECT!
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                  • Hector
                    el Hombre de Acero
                    • May 19, 2003
                    • 31852

                    #69
                    Originally posted by huedell
                    You're not getting off that easy

                    a) You're a big Reeve fan and it's known he's worn wigs to play
                    the Man Of Steel...

                    and

                    b) What does what an actor does OUTSIDE of the role
                    have absolutely anything to do with what he does onscreen (in this
                    case regarding wigs)

                    You're saying there's "nothing wrong" with being bald---yet you quickly
                    contradict yourself by ruling out a baldie for playing Superman (under
                    the right circumstances otherwise of course)---so obviously
                    there IS something wrong with being bald---- according to you guys.
                    I'm not contradicting anything, stop making stuff up.

                    Reeve was balding during his Superman years?

                    Show me, I want proof.

                    And I stand by my opinion on baldies wearing rugs in real life....LAME.

                    Hue...do you wear a rug? Is that why you are so defensive on the subject?
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                    • Hector
                      el Hombre de Acero
                      • May 19, 2003
                      • 31852

                      #70
                      Originally posted by huedell
                      They certainly do not "have to" reboot the Superman franchise
                      ---I mean, that may be your opinion, and, if so, then carry on
                      ----but let's look at the financial and public reception facts:

                      SUPERMAN RETURNS made 200 million American box office
                      and scored a respectable 77 percent with critics at ROTTEN TOMATOES.

                      Ang Lee's HULK only made 132 million and scored significantly less with
                      critics with a 61 percent RT rating.

                      I thought SPERMAN RETURNS was great---and if they make this
                      MAN OF STEEL Routh sequel---they will be making a smart move in
                      my estimation.

                      HULK was a much better case of a franchise "needing" a reboot---
                      SUPERMAN RETURNS was enough of a success, they'd be better off
                      taking an "if it ain't broke" attitude and see how a second try pans out.
                      I agree with this post, Hue.

                      See? I don't disagree with you all the time.

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                      • Hector
                        el Hombre de Acero
                        • May 19, 2003
                        • 31852

                        #71
                        Everybody keeps talking about Smallville.

                        Please, only about three or four people have seen that show.

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                        • starsky
                          veteran member
                          • Aug 26, 2007
                          • 6207

                          #72
                          what's smallville?

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                          • huedell
                            Museum Ball Eater
                            • Dec 31, 2003
                            • 11069

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Hector
                            I'm not contradicting anything, stop making stuff up.

                            Reeve was balding during his Superman years?

                            Show me, I want proof.

                            And I stand by my opinion on baldies wearing rugs in real life....LAME.

                            Hue...do you wear a rug? Is that why you are so defensive on the subject?
                            If I did "wear a rug" would it make a difference? (to me that's
                            like chiding a chick for wearing a wig or wearing makeup to enhance
                            her appearance---and making fun of wig wearers only reminds me of
                            old time slapstick bits)

                            I'm losing my hair---but----I'd like to think the reason I'm "defensive"
                            about the subject is because your stance is ungrounded and your
                            point comes off as totally illogical, yet you stand by it---not because of
                            a "hair insecurity" on my part.

                            Reeve was NOT balding during his SUPERMAN years.

                            Reeve only wore the wigs because he NEEDED to, to achieve the
                            desired effect....
                            just like a bald actor would need to wear a wig... to achieve the desired effect.

                            Your stance that you don't want to see a Superman wear a wig because
                            it shows a sign of insecurity is quite insane. You'e blending fantasy and
                            reality---where it doesn't make sense to.

                            Get a grip Hector. Get a grip
                            Last edited by huedell; Jul 25, '08, 3:27 AM.
                            "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                            • Hector
                              el Hombre de Acero
                              • May 19, 2003
                              • 31852

                              #74
                              Hue, go to sleep...it's almost 2 am.

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                              • Earth 2 Chris
                                Verbose Member
                                • Mar 7, 2004
                                • 32932

                                #75
                                I've never heard of Reeves wearing a wig as Superman. Could be, but in Superman III, his hair isn't jet-black, and is closer to Reeve's natural sandy-brown color. Sure looks like his hair to me, specifically in that one. If they were going to have him wear a Superman wig, I would think they'd make it dark black, as his hair appeared in the other 3 films, and of course the comics.

                                Perhaps the wigs were used by stunt doubles to mimic Reeves' appearance?

                                Not saying he didn't wear wigs as Superman, but in all the things I've read and seen on the making of the Superman movies, this is the first I've heard of it.

                                On the other hand, Lynda Carter herself has confirmed she wore wigs often while playing Wonder Woman. Go figure.



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