Illinois defeats Ohio State

[theantiquetiger]

I totally understand that Hawaii has the softest schedule around, but that's not there fault, they were given that and they are making the best of it.So you have to kind of feel for them

Hawaii is not part of a BCS Conference, and they do play a major roll in picking their schedule. A few years ago, Tulane went 12-0 and finished somewhere around #7. This is the same scenario, Hawaii should have picked a couple major powerhouses (ie USC, Org, etc), and I could see it if they were still undefeated.

Coaches Poll is out:
1. LSU (35) 9-1 1,457 2
2. Oregon (13) 8-1 1,407 3
3. Oklahoma (4)
9-1 1,366 4
4. Kansas (7) 10-0 1,344 5
5. West Virginia (1) 8-1 1,238 6
6. Missouri 9-1 1,194 7
7. Ohio State
10-1 1,145 1
8. Arizona State 9-1 1,042 9
9. Georgia 8-1 1,005 10
10. Virginia Tech 8-2 923 11
11. Texas 9-2 844 14
12. Hawaii 9-0 842 12
13. Southern California 8-2 814 15
14. Florida 7-3 686 18
15. Boise State 9-1 556 19
16. Clemson
8-2 548 20
17. Virginia 9-2 547 21
18. Boston College 8-2 505 8
19. Tennessee 7-3 306 24
20. Kentucky 7-3 304 22
21. Illinois 8-3 271 NR
22. Penn State
8-3 262 25
23. Michigan
8-3 259 13
24. Wisconsin
8-3 226 NR
25. Cincinnati 8-2 163 NR

[saildog]

I totally understand that Hawaii has the softest schedule around,but that's not there fault,they were given that and they are making the best of it.So you have to kind of feel for them

These things have a way of resolving themselves, somewhat.

Boise State went through the same criticism last year and they got their chance to make a statement (Even though they beat my Sooners, I have to admit that was an awesome game and they came to play. However, beating last year's Sooner was a lot easier than it would have been to beat last year's Gators.). In retrospect, some people have come around to the possibility that Boise State had a legitimate argument that they deserved a shot at a National Title despite being from a non-BCS conference.

If Hawaii wins out they will have a similar chance to earn some respect for going undefeated despite a soft-schedule and you know they have to be considering the possibility after what BSU accomplished. "Hindsight's 20/20", but it could make the road a little easier for Hawaii...provided they win out.

[theantiquetiger]

AP Poll out:

1 LSU (40) 9-1 1,590 2
2 Oregon (22) 8-1 1,574 3
3 Oklahoma (1) 9-1 1,471 4
4 Kansas (1) 10-0 1,439 5
5 West Virginia (1) 8-1 1,340 6
6 Missouri 9-1 1,336 7
7 Ohio State 10-1 1,184 1
8 Georgia 8-2 1,130 10
9 Arizona State 9-1 1,122 9
10 Virginia Tech 8-2 1,013 11
11 USC 8-2 924 12
12 Texas 9-2 859 15
13 Hawaii 9-0 827 14
14 Florida 7-3 814 17
15 Clemson 8-2 613 20
16 Virginia 9-2 539 23
17 Boise State 9-1 533 19
18 Boston College 8-2 527 8
19 Tennessee 7-3 488 22
20 Illinois 8-3 390 NR
21 Cincinnati 8-2 305 NR
22 Kentucky 7-3 283 24
23 Michigan 8-3 237 13
24 Wisconsin 8-3 182 NR
25 Connecticut 8-2 127 16

[Marvelmania]

I feel for Kansas. They are such a good team.

[theantiquetiger]

I feel for Kansas. They are such a good team.

Can KU really beat UO in the Big XII CG? I don't follow Big 12 very much, just the polls, so I am just wondering.

[saildog]

Can KU really beat UO in the Big XII CG? I don't follow Big 12 very much, just the polls, so I am just wondering.

I wouldn't consider it a "give me". I've seen a lot of chinks in the Sooner's armor this year. We really struggled with Iowa State (who seems to have found some momentum) and I have yet to see a convincing game from the Sooners.

KU beat Colorado in Boulder and we lost there. They beat Baylor worse than we did last night. They struggled with Texas A&M in College Station and we beat A&M pretty convincingly in Norman. Kind of 50-50 when you look at common opponents.

I don't know if it is a given that Oklahoma and Kansas will face off. We still have Texas Tech in Lubbock and we lost there last time and Oklahoma State comes ready to play almost every year. Similarly, I think Kansas will have a hard time with Mizzou. Mizzou is a pretty tight team with a pesky QB.

I would almost rather face Kansas than have to beat Mizzou twice in the same year. Pretty hard to do.

If we do make it to the Championship and face Kansas, Mangino was our Offensive Coordinator before moving on to Kansas and he has some insight on how to beat Oklahoma. He may be grossly overweight, but the man can coach.

[Marvelmania]

I don't follow the Big 12 either but after watching them last night they seem to have a lot of confidence. The way this year has been I'd say most anything can happen. Who knows maybe it'll be my Vols meeting your Tigers in Dec.

[boss]

Hey... Hey... Hey... I think we're all forgetting something. Illinois beat Ohio State.

[theantiquetiger]

Hey... Hey... Hey... I think we're all forgetting something. Illinois beat Ohio State.

Not at all!!! That's why there all this talk of LSU, KU, Okla, Hawaii, etc.

BCS Poll:

1 LSU 2742 0.9793 1457 0.9713 0.990 0.9802
2 Oregon 2651 0.9468 1407 0.9380 0.930 0.9383
3 Kansas 2498 0.8921 1344 0.8960 0.940 0.9094
4 Oklahoma 2580 0.9214 1366 0.9107 0.730 0.8540
5 Missouri 2248 0.8029 1194 0.7960 0.830 0.8096
6 West Va 2278 0.8136 1238 0.8253 0.720 0.7863
7 Ohio State 2100 0.7500 1145 0.7633 0.810 0.7744
8 Arizona St 1919 0.6854 1042 0.6947 0.870 0.7500
9 Georgia 1840 0.6571 1005 0.6700 0.690 0.6724
10 Va Tech 1665 0.5946 923 0.6153 0.630 0.6133
11 USC 1561 0.5575 814 0.5427 0.480 0.5267
12 Florida 1335 0.4768 686 0.4573 0.580 0.5047
13 Texas 1639 0.5854 844 0.5627 0.250 0.4660
14 Virginia 973 0.3475 547 0.3647 0.510 0.4074
15 Clemson 985 0.3518 548 0.3653 0.460 0.3924
16 Hawaii 1641 0.5861 842 0.5613 0.010 0.3858
17 Boston Coll 928 0.3314 505 0.3367 0.420 0.3627
18 Boise St 1052 0.3757 556 0.3707 0.040 0.2621
19 Illinois 542 0.1936 271 0.1807 0.360 0.2447
20 Tennessee 655 0.2339 306 0.2040 0.280 0.2393
21 Michigan 440 0.1571 259 0.1727 0.230 0.1866
22 Cincinnati 373 0.1332 163 0.1087 0.310 0.1840
23 Kentucky 526 0.1879 304 0.2027 0.130 0.1735
24 Connecticut 239 0.0854 103 0.0687 0.290 0.1480
25 Wisconsin 393 0.1404 226 0.1507 0.070 0.1203

[toys2cool]

Wow Kansas ahead of Oklahoma? the Oklahoma loss really hurt them

[Adam West]

Well, as disappointed as I have been with my Maryland Terrapins this year, it was nice to see them finally beat Boston College. They have now beat two top 25 ranked teams but can't seem to beat the teams they should.

I'm just hoping for a bowl bid at this point....it doesn't matter against who.

[joshvox]

I love the Buckeyes and attend Ohio State, and I'm bummed they lost. But, I think any realistic Buckeye fan knew before Saturday that we were not the best team in the country, and I did not expect them to win the National Championship (of course I didn't think they would lose at home to Illinois) but I thought they would either lose to Michigan or to LSU in the title game. Good news for buckeye fans is that, barring any premature jumps to the NFL, we return basically the exact same line up next year, and then we will have a shot at a title for sure.

[toys2cool]

I love the Buckeyes and attend Ohio State, and I'm bummed they lost. But, I think any realistic Buckeye fan knew before Saturday that we were not the best team in the country, and I did not expect them to win the National Championship (of course I didn't think they would lose at home to Illinois) but I thought they would either lose to Michigan or to LSU in the title game. Good news for buckeye fans is that, barring any premature jumps to the NFL, we return basically the exact same line up next year, and then we will have a shot at a title for sure.

Hey bro atleast your team didn't get spanked 48 nothing in there last game at the OB yikes!!!!

The good news is that UM has the best recruiting so far this season with what some say the best QB coming in,so in 2 years look out for my Canes to make a strong push and win a darn game

[Adam West]

Ooofff! And I was upset that Maryland lost to Virginia 18-17....

[toys2cool]

Ooofff! And I was upset that Maryland lost to Virginia 18-17....

Just when you think your team is bad,there's always one out there that's worse