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  • toys2cool
    Ultimate Mego Warrior
    • Nov 27, 2006
    • 28605

    Originally posted by huedell
    Some keep bringing up the dollar amount of the goods as if it means something. Not to me it doesn't...where's that "line" supposed to be drawn
    anyway? Stealing is stealing.
    ok so stealing $1 should be punished the same way as robbing a bank? come on now

    "Some keep bringing up the guys' exact job description as if it means
    something. Not to me it doesn't...the guy works in the store and apparently
    was trying to protect the store's interests."

    ok so if someone walks in to rob a bank, the teller should try and stop him the same way the security guard would right? Didn't think so
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    • huedell
      Museum Ball Eater
      • Dec 31, 2003
      • 11069

      Originally posted by toys2cool
      ok so stealing $1 should be punished the same way as robbing a bank? come on now
      The guy wasn't assigning a punishment...he was acting in the store in the
      heat of the moment.....and it was an ACCIDENT brought on by a struggling
      thief that brought about the sad result.

      Originally posted by toys2cool
      "Some keep bringing up the guys' exact job description as if it means
      something. Not to me it doesn't...the guy works in the store and apparently
      was trying to protect the store's interests."

      ok so if someone walks in to rob a bank, the teller should try and stop him the same way the security guard would right? Didn't think so
      Yes. IMO, if the security guard isn't available and someone else
      makes a judgement call to help the store out...it may be an issue of sorts
      (and will be sorted out in a courtroom)...but it makes perfect sense to me
      regardless.

      Keep posting t2, hector...I won't whine about it...seems like you have
      just as much interest in this debate as me.
      "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        Originally posted by toys2cool
        ok I'd beat his *** for sure, but not kill him
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        • Hector
          el Hombre de Acero
          • May 19, 2003
          • 31852

          Originally posted by huedell
          The guy wasn't assigning a punishment...he was acting in the store in the
          heat of the moment.....and it was an ACCIDENT brought on by a struggling
          thief that brought about the sad result.



          Yes. IMO, if the security guard isn't available and someone else
          makes a judgement call to help the store out...it may be an issue of sorts
          (and will be sorted out in a courtroom)...but it makes perfect sense to me
          regardless.

          Keep posting t2, hector...I won't whine about it...seems like you have
          just as much interest in this debate as me.
          I'm just joking...you are serious...

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          • toys2cool
            Ultimate Mego Warrior
            • Nov 27, 2006
            • 28605

            Originally posted by huedell


            Yes. IMO, if the security guard isn't available and someone else
            makes a judgement call to help the store out...it may be an issue of sorts
            (and will be sorted out in a courtroom)...but it makes perfect sense to me
            regardless.

            Keep posting t2, hector...I won't whine about it...seems like you have
            just as much interest in this debate as me.
            tell that to the people who get paid $15 an hour at a bank, if I'm a teller and someone pulls out a gun and tells me to hand over the money, I'd give him everything and offer him everything in the safe...I'm not gonna risk getting killed over money that's not mine or something that's not my job

            If it would've been the other way around everyone would be calling the guy a moron for going after a shoplifter in the first place

            they would be saying, Man could you believe the idiot wasted his life going after a guy for $6 worth of ****,
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            • toys2cool
              Ultimate Mego Warrior
              • Nov 27, 2006
              • 28605

              it's all good, I like seeing how different a lot of us think
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              • Hector
                el Hombre de Acero
                • May 19, 2003
                • 31852

                Ok, I'll be serious for just this once.

                Did the shoplifter deserved to be choked to death by the clerk? No.

                Am I saddened for the shoplifter? No.

                Does the clerk deserve some sort of punishment? Yes.

                What kind and how long? Probation...some community service or something...and perhaps some monetary compensation to the shoplifter's family.

                There...I said my peace...now I'm off to bed.

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                • toys2cool
                  Ultimate Mego Warrior
                  • Nov 27, 2006
                  • 28605

                  Originally posted by Hector
                  Ok, I'll be serious for just this once.

                  Did the shoplifter deserved to be choked to death by the clerk? No.

                  Am I saddened for the shoplifter? No.

                  Does the clerk deserve some sort of punishment? Yes.

                  What kind and how long? Probation...some community service or something...and perhaps some monetary compensation to the shoplifter's family.

                  There...I said my peace...now I'm off to bed.

                  that's more like it
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                  • huedell
                    Museum Ball Eater
                    • Dec 31, 2003
                    • 11069

                    Originally posted by Hector
                    I'm just joking...you are serious...

                    I'll buy that for a dollar.

                    As far as what you said:

                    Originally Posted by Hector
                    Ok, I'll be serious for just this once.

                    Did the shoplifter deserved to be choked to death by the clerk? No.

                    Am I saddened for the shoplifter? No.

                    Does the clerk deserve some sort of punishment? Yes.

                    What kind and how long? Probation...some community service or something...and perhaps some monetary compensation to the shoplifter's family.
                    I'll buy THAT for a dollar as well.

                    And, t2cool, if you like what Hector said, well, just find something good
                    in what I'm saying in that I agree with Hector's post too.
                    "No. No no no no no no. You done got me talkin' politics. I didn't wanna'. Like I said y'all, I'm just happy to be alive. I think I'll scoot over here right by this winda', let this beautiful carriage rock me to sleep, and dream about how lucky I am." - Chris Mannix

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                    • ScottA
                      Original Member
                      • Jun 25, 2001
                      • 12264

                      I think this thread has run it's course.
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                      • toys2cool
                        Ultimate Mego Warrior
                        • Nov 27, 2006
                        • 28605

                        Originally posted by huedell
                        I'll buy that for a dollar.

                        As far as what you said:



                        I'll buy THAT for a dollar as well.

                        And, t2cool, if you like what Hector said, well, just find something good
                        in what I'm saying in that I agree with Hector's post too.
                        sounds good to me man , Okay I think we're done here
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                        • Meule
                          Verbose Member
                          • Nov 14, 2004
                          • 28720

                          Originally posted by toys2cool
                          because he's paid to ring people up not be a security guard
                          Exactly. My girlfriend's purse is another matter, the clerk wasn't the owner of that toothpaste and crayons
                          "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                          • Meule
                            Verbose Member
                            • Nov 14, 2004
                            • 28720

                            Originally posted by Evel KMego
                            Reasons to get into a physical altercation :

                            1 - life or death = it's you or them
                            2 - in defense of your person, a loved one, relative or friend
                            3- it's your job - police, security officer, military service , boxer,mma etc.

                            All else is macho b.s. - material objects can be replaced.
                            Summed it up nicely
                            "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                            • Meule
                              Verbose Member
                              • Nov 14, 2004
                              • 28720

                              Originally posted by huedell

                              This thread has gone on real long....and I thought I must've addressed
                              everything I just said in this post already earlier in the thread,
                              but I thought I'd jump right back in and "catch up".
                              If you sai everything you wanted to say, why keep posting?
                              But hey, this is a good debate. As long as people don't start insulting each other this thread go on for another 20 pages for all I care
                              "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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                              • Meule
                                Verbose Member
                                • Nov 14, 2004
                                • 28720

                                Originally posted by toys2cool
                                ok I'd beat his *** for sure, but not kill him
                                Hit him the wrong way and he's dead as well
                                "...The agony of my soul found vent in one loud, long and final scream of despair..." - Edgar Allan Poe

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