December 8th, 1980. Where were you??

[Earth 2 Chris]

I was 5, almost 6 and in kindergarten. My dad was 42 and my mom was 37, so they were too old to be huge Beatles fans. So I can't say it really affected me.

That being said, it was certainly tragic. But the murder of any innocent always is.

Chris

[GlobalObserver]

I was a 16 year old high school senior when Lennon was shot and killed. I didn't learn of his death until the following morning when the school bus driver told me the bad news. I couldn't believe it. At that point in my life, I had only been a Beatles fan for a couple of years, but it was still a difficult pill to swallow. I can't believe it's been nearly three decades since that awful night. It just doesn't seem that long ago.

[txteach]

Oh my god Mike your Mcgriddle comment almost made me pee my pants.

[ScottA]

I was in the 11th grade then.

[Hector]

Right.....but we don't want to have to see you get into your secret identity. Things could get messy again!!
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[Cosmicman]

I am going to write a story about that character. Been talking to that Al Barret guy on here. He is pretty creative and writes stories and has his own style of art and work. Maybe I'll sugguest an appearance by El Vigalante in one of his little comic books or one of my short stories.

[kingdom warrior]

Elvis is becoming more of a mere memory than Lennon.

I don't think Elvis is that well known outside the United States anymore.

Lennon's death was so much more tragic...he was murdered in cold blood.

Elvis' drug intake would even make Lennon blush...and he died because of that...as a druggie who ate too much...clogging his arteries.

Not even close...Lennon was coldly murdered...Elvis croaked due to his own stupidity.

Dude where do you get that from???? Elvis's Estate on average every year earns about 42 million a year. This year it was about 55 million. Elvis is Iconic his name alone is Unique when you say Elvis people know who you're talking about just like Jesus and Tarzan. Elvis is known world wide I'm part of a few Elvis forums and you have Teens into Elvis. As a matter of fact more teens can sing more Elvis songs than any of Johns solo stuff.

Plus Elvis's music lands in three categories, Classic Rock and Roll,Country and Gospel.......

John's solo Stuff is acquired taste.....not everybody likes it.

Elvis music is straight and easy to get into especially his Rockabilly music.

[Mikey]

The only problem I have with singers that try to make the world into a perfect utopia is they can't even make their own life utopian.

John Lennon was a great singer and great song writer, but if you listen to a lot of his lyrics they're totally BS coming from him...

Power to the People ?
C'mon John, you have 10 zillion dollars ... If the people really did have power they'd take your money

Instant Karma ....
Ask Julian what John's Karma was toward him

How Do You Sleep ?
That was an undeserved attack by Mr Peace Boy


McCartney on the other hand don't mince words ... he's a candyass and so is his songs.

[Cosmicman]

The only problem I have with singers that try to make the world into a perfect utopia is they can't even make their own life utopian.

John Lennon was a great singer and great song writer, but if you listen to a lot of his lyrics they're totally BS coming from him...

Power to the People ?
C'mon John, you have 10 zillion dollars ... If the people really did have power they'd take your money

Instant Karma ....
Ask Julian what John's Karma was toward him

How Do You Sleep ?
That was an undeserved attack by Mr Peace Boy


McCartney on the other hand don't mince words ... he's a candyass and so is his songs.

Wow. You should go down to Strawberry Fields Memorial with a megaphone about this time of year and shout your feelings about John Lennon and see how many blocks you make it trying to get away.

...and you say "How do you sleep" was an undeserved attack?? I'm sorry but McCartney started it with his bull****. Have you heard the song "Too Many People?" Lennon was just fighting back.

Thank you...drive through

Dude where do you get that from???? Elvis's Estate on average every year earns about 42 million a year. This year it was about 55 million. Elvis is Iconic his name alone is Unique when you say Elvis people know who you're talking about just like Jesus and Tarzan. Elvis is known world wide I'm part of a few Elvis forums and you have Teens into Elvis. As a matter of fact more teens can sing more Elvis songs than any of Johns solo stuff.

Plus Elvis's music lands in three categories, Classic Rock and Roll,Country and Gospel.......

John's solo Stuff is acquired taste.....not everybody likes it.

Elvis music is straight and easy to get into especially his Rockabilly music.

Elvis toward the end of the 70s was trying to save his *** by doing all those Vegas shows. He was nothing compared to how he was. When Elvis died; that is when his estate became worth triple at what it was. That is where a lot of speculation came from that he may have "faked his death" because he wasn't doing too well in Vegas toward the end.
I loved Elvis also but he sure wasn't "popping out" those hits like he used to.

John's solo stuff was an "acquired" taste" ? Where do you live? Kentucky?

[Mikey]

Wow. You should go down to Strawberry Fields Memorial with a megaphone about this time of year and shout your feelings about John Lennon and see how many blocks you make it trying to get away.

I loved the Beatles and John Lennon, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize him.

The guy was definitely flawed but a lot of people seem to forget that and try to make him into a saint.

The REAL behind the scenes Lennon would probably chuckle at what he's been made out to be today.

I could picture Lennon walking up to the Strawberry Fields Memorial and thinking --- OMG

[Cosmicman]

John Lennon to me was the greatest thing. He was basically my first hero and realization that we are mortal.
I know you were kidding Mikey.

[kingdom warrior]

Elvis toward the end of the 70s was trying to save his *** by doing all those Vegas shows. He was nothing compared to how he was. When Elvis died; that is when his estate became worth triple at what it was. That is where a lot of speculation came from that he may have "faked his death" because he wasn't doing too well in Vegas toward the end.
I loved Elvis also but he sure wasn't "popping out" those hits like he used to.

John's solo stuff was an "acquired" taste" ? Where do you live? Kentucky?

Actually I live in New York ...and yes Acquired? Give peace a chance is kind've a crap song IMO looks like he wrote that while taking a dump Imagine, Instant Karma and Watching the wheels go by are probably his best solo efforts...every thing else is is about average......I don't see lennon's Cd's selling off the charts mind you I'm a Lennon fan and when i was a kid looked up to him....but I grew up and when I hear him talk about peace and loving it all sounds like crap to me now there is this one piece of footage of him that i've been trying to find on youtube where he babbles about peace and love and I had to laugh Cause i thought he was talking ****.....He was a very flawed man like all of us so I don't hero worship him.

[Cosmicman]

Actually I live in New York ...and yes Acquired? Give peace a chance is kind've a crap song IMO looks like he wrote that while taking a dump Imagine, Instant Karma and Watching the wheels go by are probably his best solo efforts...every thing else is is about average......I don't see lennon's Cd's selling off the charts mind you I'm a Lennon fan and when i was a kid looked up to him....but I grew up and when I hear him talk about peace and loving it all sounds like crap to me now there is this one piece of footage of him that i've been trying to find on youtube where he babbles about peace and love and I had to laugh Cause i thought he was talking ****.....He was a very flawed man like all of us so I don't hero worship him.

It seems you are trying hard to paint a negative picture of a man that you have never really known. For someone that just wanted peace and love; he surely wasn't a bad guy. Was he flawed? Yes, so what? Toward the end of Lennon's life he tried to correct a lot of things that "flawed him" in the beginning such as being a father to Sean; since his father was a sailer that had no contact with him until he was famous and then he came crawling back into John's life looking for a handout.

Yes, 've heard some stories... but everyone has a few moments in their life where, if isolated and focused on, it would make them look like an *******... the type of mega-celebrity he was, the kind of expectations and beliefs people had of him, as well as people's reactions to him (like the overreaction to the jesus comment), will make most anyone hostile to the media and overzealous fans... None of the beatles were able to react positively to the pressure at all times, and they all have stories that could make them sound like a jerk but it is hard to tell really the media does not tell the truth about everything and they can make or break you. They can take one instance and make you believe the whole life is like that.

John Lennon to me was an artistic genius, and one of my personal heroes. He influenced me at a young age. Something about this man. His looks, his attitude and everything made me want to be him and pushed something inside of me to become better and to be a musician.
His death was something that broke me inside because I believe in him and wanted to do everything he did. All he wanted was peace and love and for that he got six bullets in his ****ing back by a jealous and twisted coward with the mentality of a nine year old.

When Lennon died all over the world, fans held silent vigils in John's memory. In New York's Central Park, across from the Dakota, nearly 400,000 fans turned up to pay their respects.

So you are saying 400,000 people just showed up because they had better things to do like freeze their *** off and stand in Central Park paying tribute to a mediocre musician that was a flawed ****** bag? I think you are getting your information from the wrong people and perhaps you should rethink a lot of your states.

You say Lennon's music isn't falling off the racks? Well, he has been dead for nearly 30 years. I think all the real fans of John Lennon already own the music. Why would they need to keep buying the same **** over and over. There isn't a song by John Lennon that I have not heard or a record/CD that I don't have.

"Give Peace a Chance" was supposed to be a fun song he recorded while doing a "bed in" for peace demonstration. The fact the low quality "fun song" became as big as it did, proves that John Lennon was famous and had the power to say and do anything and it would blow up....and to this day "Give Peace a Chance" is a powerful statement and used all over the world to express a disinterest in war and violence.

John Lennon's death was probably and will be marked down as the worst death ever. Why? Because he was murdered in cold blood and stopped from progressing further. At the time of his death, he was on the way to a come back with his album "Double Fantasy". He took a break for several years to "be a father" and raise Sean. Because he took that time out, alot of people think he "sucked" (like you) because he quit music for awhile and stopped hanging out on charts so he could...."be human" and do something as a father that his worthless day did not offer him. For that. That makes me feel Lennon was mortal and was not a joke as you think.

I think people were a bit shocked by him. All he wanted was peace, but he probably went about it the wrong way. The way he took was short cuts but in the end he wanted the same thing as the majority of the world.

He was my favorite Beatle, and I love his music and wish he were alive today to write more great songs but he never had that chance!!!! Therefore, he is always stuck in that time from 1971-1980. While the other Beatles grew up and had more songs.

[kingdom warrior]

Okay i do the know the man I'm a huge Beatle fan...Have read virtually everything there was written about them so I do know him.......

John's Solo career was a hit because he was a Beatle first....had he never had been one he would NOT have so much carry over. John experimented more with his music and was NOT the best seller of the 4 even Ringo out sold him in the 70's.

Yes towards the end he had time to reflect more about his life and put away his music for five years to be with Sean. Something his old man never did.

Sorry Cat John WAS a hero when I was a Kid but i grew up and I see him only as a Great songwriter for a great band but as a solo star he seemed lost and wanting his writing partner back......When young people think of John now..it's mostly Beatle related.

and I'm not talking about his fans buying his Cd's I'm talking about new fans turned on to his music.......they only come by way of the beatles not really his solo stuff....

Cat I'm not trying to offend you bro i understand where your coming from but I(me) don't hero worship John anymore......

[txteach]

Wow this thread has degerated into a Lennon bashing thread. I met the man briefly and can in all honesty say he was a good man, kind to us kids who came up to him starstruck. I think the guy was mega-talented and I think the world is better because he existed. I for one would love to have a musician like him around today.