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Long story short....Golden Age Hawkman is Carter Hall, archeologist, who is the reincarnation of Egyptian Prince Khufu. Silver Age Hawkman is Katar Hol, one of the planet Thangar's wingman police force, who comes to earth to study police methods and assumes the identity Carter Hol. In the pre-Crisis DC universe, Golden Age Hawkman was from Earth-2 and Silver Age was from Earth-1.Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!Comment
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I have been studying the Hawkman Special book and I have figured it out (along with several other readers.)
Hawkman is a man out of time (like Powergirl). He is the original Silver Age Hawkman that is an alien and one of the early members of the JLA. He was the product of the Earth's forming into one and it changed outside of him for some reason. This why are gonna see a Hawkman reboot book when this is all over.
We are going to see the original alien from the silver age be returned as one of the early JLA members. You all watch!
So Katar Hol is dead. The byproduct of the Earth's forming into one. The current Hawkman is the original silver age Hawkman that somehow survived the Crisis wipe. I am sure they will explain it.Last edited by Cosmicman; Aug 16, '08, 9:08 PM.More custom Mego madness on Facebook right here...
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Not to be a snot Anthony, and I'm sure you know this, but the Silver Age Hawkman assumed the identity of Carter Hall, the same name as the Golden Age Hawkman. When Earth 1 and Earth 2 supposedly merged, this apparently made the folks at DC decide there couldn't be two Hawkmen with the same name, hence their rebooting of the Thanagarian Hawkman with no secret ID.Long story short....Golden Age Hawkman is Carter Hall, archeologist, who is the reincarnation of Egyptian Prince Khufu. Silver Age Hawkman is Katar Hol, one of the planet Thangar's wingman police force, who comes to earth to study police methods and assumes the identity Carter Hol. In the pre-Crisis DC universe, Golden Age Hawkman was from Earth-2 and Silver Age was from Earth-1.
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You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie BanksComment
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not the version that was on the early version of the JLA. When they did Hawkworld, they rebooted Katar. Just like they did Wonder Woman and it ****ed up their early existence with the JLA.
They later changed Wonder Woman back and I am assuming that this is what they are doing to Hawkman. They blew it off by saying it was the JSA version, Carter Hall that was on the JLA. Remember?Last edited by Cosmicman; Aug 17, '08, 9:18 AM.More custom Mego madness on Facebook right here...
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T-bolt is right...originally after the original Crisis, the Katar Hol Hawkman was indeed still a part of the JLA. He was featured primarily in the "Invasion" cross-over issues by Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire. That was in late '88-early '89.
Truman's "Hawkworld" mini-series was released in '89 and Truman originally had planned for it to be a retcon origin reboot. Instead, when DC released the "Hawkworld" series in 1990, the powers that be decided that the new Hawkworld version of Katar Hol would be entering the DC Universe for the first time.
So it was decided that the Hawkman that had served with the JLA in older adventures would now be Carter Hall, the JSA hero who acted as a liason between the two groups. But by the time of "Invasion" that Carter Hall was trapped in Limbo with the rest of the JSA. So DC retroactively introduced Thangarian spy Fel Andar as the Thangarian Hawkman who had served with the Giffen JLA during "Invasion".
Fel Andar's deception was later discovered and he became an enemy of the Hawkworld version of Katar Hol.
I also think it was recently revealed that the Golden Eagle was actually the son of Fel Andar in the most recent Hawkman series by Gray and Palmiotti.Think OUTSIDE the Box! For the BEST in Repro & Custom Packaging!Comment
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If I wasn't a fan of Hawkman, I would be in the same boat. I have been following Hawkman since I was a kid because he has always been a favorite.
My friend put every single copy of the All Star Squadron into Adobe Acrobat form for me to read on the computer. That must have taken forever to scan page by page but he did it because these were my daughter's favorite stories I read to her at bedtime (this was her choice) LOL
In those books, you get to see the original Hawkman and how dedicated he was to his country during World War II. He actually hung up his wings, helmet and mace and enlisted. I thought that was so cool.
The alien Hawkman was and is still my favorite all because of the Challenge of The Superfriends cartoons.
I just think maybe it is time to define the difference between Golden Age Hawkman and alien Hawkman and quit running them together. That is what makes it confusing.
Golden Age Hawkman should have never been a member on the JLA. When they did that to cover up the mistakes of the alien Hawkman after trying to reboot him a million times, that is when stuff started to get mixed up.
It is time for DC to permanently fix the alien Hawkman and quit trying to say, "oh it was the Golden Age Hawkman" when it wasn't.More custom Mego madness on Facebook right here...
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There was also a crossover with Byrne's Post Crisis rebooted Superman that was definitely the Thanagarian Hawkman. The Carter Hall Hawkman was shoehorned in for the JLA Origins Miniseries. It wasn't until during and after Invasion! that the Thanagarians were played differently.You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie BanksComment
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