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  • Mr.Marion
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    Originally posted by JRT!
    Personally I didn't overlook it,just felt I couldn't include it since I've never seen it,just heard of it for all these years. All the films I include on my non-list are movies I have seen.
    If you can watch Electra, Howard the Duck or Corman's FF, then Mario Bava's Danger: Diabolik would be like Casablanca by comparison. lol
    If you want to see absolute rubbish. Check out George Pal's Doc Savage (1975)

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  • PNGwynne
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    I freaking love Danger: Diabolik. Like The Abominable Dr. Phibes and The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao, it's a film I can pop in at any time and decompress and thoroughly enjoy. Some films are like comfort food.

    Barring about two lines of cheesy humor, I think The Shadow is underrated.

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  • JRT!
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    Personally I didn't overlook it,just felt I couldn't include it since I've never seen it,just heard of it for all these years. All the films I include on my non-list are movies I have seen.

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  • Mr.Marion
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    An overlooked film that I didn't see on anybodies list.

    It really was the first Comic book movie done right.

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  • JRT!
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    Oh this fun thread is easy for me. I love it all! There are no worst for me,I love especially the worst ones. Howard the Duck,Underdog,Green Lantern,Corman's FF,Supergirl,Condorman,Meteor Man,Turtles,all of it......bring it on! There's always SOMEthing I will find entertaining. And like I've said before,I always seem to end up loving what everyone else thinks is crap,or didn't do well at the box office,etc,etc. Oh I have plenty of movies I don't like,usually big budget,overpaid boring actors,and just plain old boring movies,but none of'em are in the superhero/comics genre. So no list from me I guess,lol.

    J-R!

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  • thunderbolt
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    best Superhero...
    Hellboy, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Captain America, Avengers, Flash Gordon Serial, Deadpool, Punisher War Zone, Iron Man, Ant Man, Incredibles, Batman 66 movie, Super Argo, Mexican Bat-Girl, X-Men First Class and DOFP
    Comic non Superhero...
    Sin City, V for Vendetta
    Crap..
    All Fantastic 4 movies, Superman 2-4 (2 gets it for the cellophane S trap), Batman forever and B & R, Spider-Man 3 and the two after it, Amazing? GREEN LANTERN!!!!

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  • Brue
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    Updated Feb 2016

    I find it amazing that there are 50 superhero movies that are good to great. Only six of these came out before I finished high school. Only 15 before 2000.

    Here is my current top 50 Theatrical released comics movies


    1. Avengers
    2. Avengers Age of Ultron
    3. Captain America - The Winter Soldier
    4. Dark Knight
    5. Iron Man
    6. Incredibles
    7. Spider-Man
    8. Conan the Barbarian (Arnold)
    9. Superman II
    10. Batman Mask of the Phantasm

    11. Captain America
    12. Iron Man 2
    13. X-Men
    14. X-Men Days of Future Past
    15. Spider-Man 2
    16. X2
    17. Guardians of the Galaxy
    19. Batman (89)
    20. Watchmen

    21. Thor
    22. Superman The Movie
    23. Unbreakable
    24. Batman Returns
    25. Daredevil
    26. Thor The DarkWorld
    27. Flash Gordon
    28. Batman Begins
    29. Ant-Man
    30. Incredible Hulk

    31. Blade
    32. V for Vendetta
    33. Sin City
    34. The Crow
    35. Batman Forever
    36. Batman (66)
    37. Hellboy
    38. X-Men First Class
    39. Deadpool
    40. Spawn

    41. Blade 2
    42. Amazing Spider-man
    43. Rocketeer
    44. Superman and Mole Men
    45. Kick ***
    46. Phantom
    47. X-Men The Last Stand
    48. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1994
    49. Superman Returns
    50. Ghost Rider

    51. Fantastic 4 2015
    52. Punisher War Zone
    53. Man of Steel
    54. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2014
    55. Mask of Zorro
    56. Underdog
    57. Red Sonja
    58. The Shadow
    59. Howard The Duck
    60. The Mask

    60. Judge Dredd (1995)
    62. The Wolverine
    63. Conan the Destroyer
    64. Swamp Thing
    65. Barb Wire
    66. TMNT
    67. Hellboy 2
    68. Ghost Rider Spirits of Vengeance
    69. The Shadow
    70. Amazing Spider-man 2

    71. Iron man 3
    72. Tank Girl
    73. Jonah Hex
    74. Steel
    75. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
    76. Hulk
    77. Fantastic four silver surfer
    78. Batman and robin
    79. Kick *** 2
    80. Superman 3

    81. The Spirit
    82. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2
    83. Super girl
    84. Crow City of Angels
    85. Legend of Zorro
    86. Superman 4
    87 Dredd
    88. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3
    89. Return of Swamp Thing
    90. Son of the Mask

    91. Green Lantern
    92. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
    93. The Dark Knight Rises
    94. Fantastic Four (2005)
    95. Elektra
    96. Spider-man 3
    97. The Punisher (Thomas Jane)
    98. Blade: Trinity
    99. Constantine
    100. Catwoman

    101. Big Hero 6
    Last edited by Brue; Feb 28, '16, 10:09 PM. Reason: Add

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  • Brue
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    I just looked at box office returns. Some films I had forgotten about that were bad (the Spirit and others).
    Some I thought weren't terrible that tanked (Punisher War Zone...)
    Some that did really well that were really bad (Spider-man 3 and Iron man 3...)
    there are some inexplicably left off the list (Incredibles)
    See the list here:
    http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/cr...ype/Super-Hero
    Last edited by Brue; Feb 14, '16, 12:04 AM.

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  • Brue
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    Great List with great explanations of why.
    And yes, Unbreakable - while not rooted in comics- is awesome.

    And Blade deserves credit for paving the path for modern comic book movies.

    Originally posted by hedrap
    Unbreakable - still the best superhero movie. History of Violence is my favority comic adaptation.

    But for superhero comics...

    1. Conan -Distilled Howard's work into a perfect movie. Only Excalibur did a better job filtering an array of sources into one film.

    2. Blade - Still the best Marvel movie. A D-character turned horror/action that no one associated with the disastrous superhero films of the 90's.

    3. The Crow - If the movie was average, Lee's death would have just been sad. But Proyas shot an anti-Burton film and that made his death tragic.

    4. Swamp Thing - The superhero movie that nearly all other superhero movie has stolen its premise from; Transformation as a manifestation of the character's psyche.

    5. Batman Begins - A movie carried by its lead performance due to the character being fleshed out and not swamped by VFX or the villain.

    6. The Dark Knight - Nolan, Goyer and Ledger reinvent the Joker and retool multiple comic ideas

    7. Captain America - Arguably perfect casting and the exact right tone.

    8. Spider-Man/2 - As close to Silver Age as we're going to see without parody.

    9 - Iron Man - Favreau turns Tony Stark into a Vince Vaughn character which adds an early 60's playboy vibe to the character which didn't exist.

    Everything else has moments - Zod in Superman 2, Shots of Superman in MOS, Flash Gordon's visuals/score, Asgard in Thor,so on - but big flaws to match.

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  • hedrap
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    ^I really like Begins. It has some hacky script elements, such as Thomas Wayne's speech, but like the sequels, the themes work in multiple directions, which I can't say for any Marvel movie.

    With TDK, it falls over itself with the Two-Face extension. That was due to Nolan not having a contract for a third and the original trilogy he and Goyer came up with was Two-Face as the closing act, so they wanted to wrap things up as it wasn't sure Nolan was coming back. If they ended with Joker's capture, it's near-perfect.

    The first Spidey could have been untouchable if Raimi was given free reign. MJ for Gwen, DaFoe over Malkovich, robot Goblin...all Sony.

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  • PNGwynne
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    ^You obviously like Nolan's Batman much more that I do, but I think your comment on Spiderman 2 is very apt.

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  • hedrap
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    Unbreakable - still the best superhero movie. History of Violence is my favority comic adaptation.

    But for superhero comics...

    1. Conan -Distilled Howard's work into a perfect movie. Only Excalibur did a better job filtering an array of sources into one film.

    2. Blade - Still the best Marvel movie. A D-character turned horror/action that no one associated with the disastrous superhero films of the 90's.

    3. The Crow - If the movie was average, Lee's death would have just been sad. But Proyas shot an anti-Burton film and that made his death tragic.

    4. Swamp Thing - The superhero movie that nearly all other superhero movie has stolen its premise from; Transformation as a manifestation of the character's psyche.

    5. Batman Begins - A movie carried by its lead performance due to the character being fleshed out and not swamped by VFX or the villain.

    6. The Dark Knight - Nolan, Goyer and Ledger reinvent the Joker and retool multiple comic ideas

    7. Captain America - Arguably perfect casting and the exact right tone.

    8. Spider-Man/2 - As close to Silver Age as we're going to see without parody.

    9 - Iron Man - Favreau turns Tony Stark into a Vince Vaughn character which adds an early 60's playboy vibe to the character which didn't exist.

    Everything else has moments - Zod in Superman 2, Shots of Superman in MOS, Flash Gordon's visuals/score, Asgard in Thor,so on - but big flaws to match.
    Last edited by hedrap; Aug 18, '15, 8:29 PM.

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  • Mego Milk
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    worst...

    Superman 3

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  • Boy_Wonder_1978
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    My worst...

    Batman & Robin
    Batman Forever
    Ghost Rider
    Daredevil
    Fantastic Four (2015)
    Superman 4
    Hulk

    Like...

    Batman (89)
    Batman Returns
    Captain America : The First Avenger
    X-Men
    X-Men 2
    Supergirl
    Amazing Spider-Man
    Amazing Spider-Man 2
    Spider-Man
    Spider-Man 2
    Superman Returns
    Dark Knight Rises
    The Avengers
    The Avengers : Age of Ultron
    Ant-Man

    My absolute best...

    Man of Steel
    Superman The Movie
    Superman 2 (The Donner Cut)
    Dark Knight
    Batman Begins
    The Crow
    Captain America : The Winter Soldier
    Iron Man
    Iron Man 2
    Incredible Hulk
    Guardians of the Galaxy
    X-Men : First Class

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  • Brue
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    oh - I forgot about Constantine. It would make my list -but not the best list.

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