Agents of Shield debuts tonight

[MIB41]

Coulson: "Axe the fish tank." Great line after Fury told him he wanted the ship restored exactly as it was without ANY modifications like some fish tank crap.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Nice twisty episode. I'm glad the show is fun, and not overly brooding or dark.

Chris

[Marvelmania]

Another enjoyable episode but kind of tired of how every other show now has a couple of geeks using words that need to be translated so that everyone else knows what they're talking about. It's been played to death. Coulson still makes the show, enjoy his cool demeanor.

[Sideshow Spock]

I thought last nite's ep was even more tedious than the premiere. Just think if the words "Marvel" or "Shield" weren't attached to this project, and it was just a random show about 23yo Gap models in the field for an elite govt agency (despite most of them having no experience), would folks still be so keen on it? From the action to the dialogue, it's all just very mediocre fare.

I've been a big fan of every Whedon series, and so far this is a major disappointment to me.

[monitor_ep]

I would have to agree. They need to use this series to introduce the Marvel Cinematic Universe minor characters and they need a villain to connect the series. Every Sci-Fi series needs a major villains to go up against. A.I.M. or Hydra should be used more. I would also like to see Agents of Atlas show up.

[Bionicfanboy66]

Glad to see a comic book related series that doesn't take itself too seriously. Most shows normally start out slow. M*A*S*H wasn't exactly a ratings winner during its first season(1972-73). Neither was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Had ST TNG aired on network, it probably would've been cancelled after 12 episodes if that. Six Million Dollar Man didn't really catch on until Jamie Sommers was introduced at the end of season two.

[hedrap]

http://television.cosmicbooknews.com/content/nick-fury-doesnt-help-marvels-agents-shield-ratings-drop-over-30

So, what are we looking at?

30% drop. Ugly. It's losing to The Voice and NCIS. That is not expected. If this continues, they'll move it. And it could easily kill Gotham Central.

The much-loved Marvel credit-bump isn't going to work for television. The problem for Disney is you can do this with the movie stars because as long as they're uncredited, they can pay a different rate. But if you can't advertise or use them as a central figure it means nothing.

Coulson Love, as I've felt from his Iron Man days, is just the latest example of fanboyism that does not deliver.

Television is a fast business now. There's no room for a slow-build on network time. I wasn't down on this when it was originally announced, I was actually optimistic thinking the players involved learned their lessons from past implosions.

But we're seeing an obvious deterioration in quality now that Disney has direct input. They're turning everything into generic action/adventure stuff and using superheroes as the gimmick. Which really misses the point.

EDIT: Bionic. It's a totally different business now, and it mutates about every decade. Buffy was cult big. Angel, somewhat. Firefly, not even. But Buffy hit Fox right when networks were moving away from trying to find the broadest demo and focusing on tighter ones. Buffy fit the X-Files mold, but never achieved X-Files ratings.

TNG was at the cusp of cable originals, so it was always guaranteed a spot somewhere.

The 70's/80's are close to continuous models because business was booming and cable hadn't eaten away at the network core, yet.

If SHIELD stays in the 3 range, they'll make it for the full year on Tuesdays. If they drop into the 2's, they'll move nights when the mid-seasons come in. If that doesn't help, they're one and done.

[sprytel]

I've been thinking about "Tahiti. It's a magical place." I am thinking the continued use of the word "magical" is intentional...

[hedrap]

I've been thinking about "Tahiti. It's a magical place." I am thinking the continued use of the word "magical" is intentional...

I think you're right. It feels like foreshadowing.

[MIB41]

http://television.cosmicbooknews.com...s-drop-over-30

So, what are we looking at?

30% drop. Ugly. It's losing to The Voice and NCIS. That is not expected. If this continues, they'll move it. And it could easily kill Gotham Central.

The much-loved Marvel credit-bump isn't going to work for television. The problem for Disney is you can do this with the movie stars because as long as they're uncredited, they can pay a different rate. But if you can't advertise or use them as a central figure it means nothing.

Coulson Love, as I've felt from his Iron Man days, is just the latest example of fanboyism that does not deliver.

Television is a fast business now. There's no room for a slow-build on network time. I wasn't down on this when it was originally announced, I was actually optimistic thinking the players involved learned their lessons from past implosions.

But we're seeing an obvious deterioration in quality now that Disney has direct input. They're turning everything into generic action/adventure stuff and using superheroes as the gimmick. Which really misses the point.

EDIT: Bionic. It's a totally different business now, and it mutates about every decade. Buffy was cult big. Angel, somewhat. Firefly, not even. But Buffy hit Fox right when networks were moving away from trying to find the broadest demo and focusing on tighter ones. Buffy fit the X-Files mold, but never achieved X-Files ratings.

TNG was at the cusp of cable originals, so it was always guaranteed a spot somewhere.

The 70's/80's are close to continuous models because business was booming and cable hadn't eaten away at the network core, yet.

If SHIELD stays in the 3 range, they'll make it for the full year on Tuesdays. If they drop into the 2's, they'll move nights when the mid-seasons come in. If that doesn't help, they're one and done.

I've been giving it a try. The pilot did very little for me. The second episode was better, but ultimately the premise is weak. I never thought the Coulson character would be strong enough to build a series around. In contrast, I sat down and watched the Arrow season one recap tonight and the series is strong. It's got a good storyline pulling in characters from the DC Universe with plenty of promise of more to come. It has purpose in building the DC Universe. Shield is lost somewhere in the middle of that. The Marvel universe is already established, so it's focus is a little less defined.

[BlackKnight]

If they Get Renner ..., Jackson, ... Johannson or somebody Else associated to the Project thats is more so an A lister ..., for a guest Episode or Arc .... Ratings will go thru the Roof ..., and Probably pay for the Entire Season too.

[jds1911a1]

I must be in the minority, I think it's a solid show and it's exactly what I expected from it as a Joss Whedden show. I liked the Agent Coulson character from the start and as someone who was a big fan of Nick Fury Agent of Shield (back in the bronze age) I am hooked. I even like it enough to watch in real time on Tuesdays instead of on demand later - depsite all the commercials for the goldbergs during the show.

[jwyblejr]

I think if they had started them out going after say Zodiac,it might have made things better.

[Sideshow Spock]

Screw the criticisms, if they keep putting Skye in dresses like that , I'll keep watching

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Yeah. Quoth my 11-year old son "SHE'S HOT!"


Chris