Never really thought about Dark Knight trilogy timeline...

[MIB41]

That's exactly what I'm saying. Anyone CAN'T be Batman...if they could, Bruce Wayne's no longer special. Only Bruce Wayne has the drive, the emotional need, and the money to be Batman. No one else could do it. Same with Spider-Man. When I said exceptional individual, I was referring to the person, not the powers...in case you missed that.

YOU said this was a flaw in the film. Now you're saying it isn't? The series covered this point. Wayne was not anyone special in the beginning. He applied himself, LIKE ANYONE COULD. If you noticed, others did too in the Dark Knight installment. When one of them says, "What gives you the right?" Batman says, "I'm not wearing hockey pads." The POINT is it takes more than the outfit. It takes the commitment and the resolve to know how to fight crime. These guys were out there in this celebratory romp thinking the outfit made them special. He was fighting crime with weapons that worked. And through the training he received. But he started out just like them. Robin started out just like him. It's your commitment to the cause and understanding how to utilize the tools necessary to fight back. But their all human. No special powers. Nolan was illustrating that Batman was a symbol. Batman showed up in a lot of different ways. B&R is just a cartoon with no thought process to the character except to sell toys. Listen to the director comments if you disagree. Schumacher admits it. No one is saying you can't like what you want. There's just no comparison to the content of script; care in application; or the results of what the public wanted to see when you place it next to the Dark Knight series. Any of them. But saying Batman pulling out an American Express card is somehow more thoughtful and relevant than Nolan's expression is like saying the Toxic Avenger is better than the Avengers.

[Figuremod73]

Honestly, I think Nolan made an admirable effort but the whole series just wasnt fun to watch. To gritty and and grounded on realism. Thats just my own personal taste.

Batman and Robin at least tried to be fun, even though it was around two hours of merchandising.

Like whats been said before I hope to see more of the caped crusader next time, less of the dark knight.

[enyawd72]

YOU said this was a flaw in the film. Now you're saying it isn't? The series covered this point. Wayne was not anyone special in the beginning. He applied himself, LIKE ANYONE COULD.

No, I'm saying the film makes the case that anyone can be Batman, but they can't. Wayne was special in the beginning, he just didn't realize it. He already had what it took to be Batman, it just needed brought out. Kind of like how Steve Rogers was always Captain America on the inside. The super-soldier serum wouldn't have worked the same way on anyone else. Anyway...let's put this to rest. I'm glad you like DKR...it's just not for me. I think Nolan lost his vision after the second installment. I'll take Arnold as Mr. Freeze any day...he was, dare I say...cool.

[MIB41]

We both like Batman in one incarnation or another. That's what counts.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I look at it that anyone can BE Batman, but Bruce Wayne is THE Batman. Dick Grayson, Terry McGinnis, John Blake, etc can become Batman, but Bruce is THE Batman.

Kind of like Sean Connery and James Bond. Daniel Craig is great, but Connery IS Bond.

Chris

[BlackKnight]

The Story of John Blake was completely not needed.
It totally took away from The Story, of Batman imo.
I think Nolan wrote JGL in , after Interception, because they became Buds....
The Movie woulda already been better with Far Less Focus on JGL, Rather than Batman.

Again, Nolan Spent far too Much Time Telling a Story without Batman, than With Batman.
I still don't Understand why this Movie is Called Dark Knight Rises, When He took off at the End of the Film. They Shoulda Just Called this Film Gotham Days.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I applaud Nolan for ending his trilogy and his take on Batman. He definitely went in a different direction than just about any franchise sequel I can think of, short of "finite" franchises like Harry Potter, LOTR, Twilight (ugh). We all know there will be another Batman film, but this is Nolan's last, so he went out in a way that few others would dare to.

Well, Bryan Singer kind of did a similar thing with Superman Returns...but that really backfired on him. Having no Superman film for nearly 20 years, taking the risks and going in the directions he did seemed wrong, despite it being a good movie overall.

Chris

[Chippupperty]

Bahh....it all makes it time for a new line of Batman figures with any new movie.

[Figuremod73]

^ I wonder if theres anyone out there that has ever single figure/variation of Batman since the '89 film. I doubt any other figure even comes close; maybe Spiderman.

I wonder if that makes it safe to say Batman is the most popular comic character in history?

[enyawd72]

^ I wonder if theres anyone out there that has ever single figure/variation of Batman since the '89 film. I doubt any other figure even comes close; maybe Spiderman.

I wonder if that makes it safe to say Batman is the most popular comic character in history?

I have every regular version of Batman, plus all the variants in alphabetical order, including:

Ant Hill Magnifier Batman
Antifreeze Batman
Applesauce Batman
Areola Batman
Arkansas Chug Batman
Ax Wielding Batman
Bananarang Batman
Bare Bottom Batman
Barfbag Batman
Beanie Batman
Beano Batman
Bear Hug Batman
Bear Trap Batman
Bedazzled Batman
Befuddled Batman
Bipolar Batman
BK Whopper Batman
Bongo Batman
Burnt Batman
Burping Batman
Bystander Batman
Camera Batman
Camping Batman
Candied Batman
Carpooling Batman
Catapult Batman
Catman Batman
Catsup Batman
Censored Batman
Circular Saw Batman
Computer Batman
Congo Batman
Cutlery Batman
Damp Batman
Dancing Batman
Dangling Batman
Dark Knight Batman
Daydreaming Batman
Delicious Batman
Ditzy Batman
Dork Knight Batman
Dumpster Diving Batman
Dunce Batman
Duped Batman
Elastic Batman
Electric Batman
Enema Batman
Erotic Batman
Euro Trash Batman
Exotic Dancer Batman
Fabulous Batman
Fancy Batman
Farting Batman
Fe Fi Fo Fum Batman
Ferris Wheel Batman
Fiddling Batman
Fondue Batman
Fumbling Batman
Funhouse Batman
Gangly Batman
Gargling Batman
Gay Batman
Geriatric Batman
Germ Buster Batman
Geyser Batman
Gimpy Batman
Goofball Batman
Gumball Batman
Gynecologist Batman
Happy Batman
Herpes Batman
Hippo Armor Batman
Hippy Batman
Hook Hand Batman
Hungry Batman
Hunchback Batman
Idiot Batman
Illiterate Batman
Impregnated Batman
Jar Opener Batman
Jerky Batman
Jiffy Lube Batman
Jingle Bell Batman
Jungle Batman
Kentucky Fried Batman
Ketchup Batman
Killer Headache Batman
Kooky Batman
Lamppost Batman
Lazy Eye Batman
Lead Paint Batman
Lemon Tart Batman
Little Batman
Loose Batman
Lugnut Batman
Manly Batman
Meter Maid Batman
Missle Toe Batman
Moonshine Batman
Mop Bucket Batman
Munchies Batman
Narcolepsy Batman
Nasty Batman
Nerdy Batman
Nincompoop Batman
Nonsensical Batman
Nun Batman
Obese Batman
Omnipotent Batman
Overeating Batman
Oyster Cracker Batman
Panting Batman
Party Batman
Penny Pincher Batman
Pie Server Batman
Pouches Batman
Purple Nurple Batman
Quesadilla Maker Batman
Questionaire Batman
Radial Tire Abs Batman
Radiation Batman
Radiator Batman
Radio Controlled Batman
Red Nosed Batman
Ritalin Batman
Rooftop Batman
Rusty Nail Batman
Salad Bowl Batman
Sailboat Batman
Sandwich Batman
Sentry Batman
Shingles Batman
Soggy Batman
Super Batman
Talcum Powder Batman
Tea Time Batman
Tire Iron Batman
Toenail Clipper Batman
Toothpick Batman
Turtle Shell Batman
Turtle Wax Batman
Ultimate Batman
Underwater Batman
Underwear Model Batman
Valium Batman
Very Cherry Batman
Vitamin Batman
Voltage Regulator Batman
Vulture Batman
Waiter Batman
Wee Batman
Wet Batman
Wilting Batman
Wonton Batman
Wussy Batman
X-Ray Batman
X-Rated Batman
Yam Batman
Yellow Batman
Yiddish Batman
Yodeling Batman
Yummy Batman
Zap It Batman
Zeppelin Batman
Zippo Batman

[Cosmicman]

Just another reason , not to be a fan of the Nolan films.

Right. I'm with you on that. I'm glad they are done with them so they can get a real writer to come in and maybe write Batman into a JLA movie the way he is supposed to be. When I saw Batman begins I thought it had potential for some good sequels but Nolan crapped out and it just didn't add up for me. No thank you to these movies for me also.