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  • enyawd72
    Maker of Monsters!
    • Oct 1, 2009
    • 7904

    Never really thought about Dark Knight trilogy timeline...

    Was watching Batman Begins last night...got to the end where Gordon sends Batman off on the Joker's trail.
    Got me to thinking...Nolan said that Dark Knight takes place six months after Batman Begins. Bruce is only Batman in Begins for a short time. The events of Dark Knight happen over what, a period of maybe a month or two, after which Batman disappears for eight years?

    So his whole career as Batman lasted less than a year? That seems like a complete waste of all that training and preparation. Almost pointless really.
    Makes me feel like instead of having him disappear after Dark Knight, it would have been better to just continue on with him battling crime and evading the law.
  • bobws
    Permanent Member
    • Feb 13, 2008
    • 3479

    #2
    Just another reason , not to be a fan of the Nolan films.
    "Hang on Lady... We go for a RIDE!" - Shorty to Willie Scott.Best movie line from Indiana Jones & the Temple Of Doom

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    • boynightwing
      That Carl Guy
      • Apr 24, 2002
      • 3382

      #3
      That third movie really messes things up doesn't it? I was "meh" on it at first. Then I liked it. Then I went back to "meh". Now...I don't much care for it at all.

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      • jwyblejr
        galactic yo-yo
        • Apr 6, 2006
        • 11147

        #4
        Of course when they reboot it again,none of this will matter.

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        • MIB41
          Eloquent Member
          • Sep 25, 2005
          • 15633

          #5
          I think the premise was pretty grounded. If you took on crime at the level Wayne was, he would be incurring some significant injuries fairly quickly. And for all the money he had, it didn't change the fact that being Batman would not be a long career, which makes sense. He was making a significant dent in the crime network, but like most things there is a price to pay. I think it was a great series. Not for all comic fans who need the tights. But it more than obliterated previous efforts at the box office and became the most successful superhero franchise to date. So a new standard was set. The next Batman has a tough act to follow. I wouldn't want the job. Honestly only the Avengers stands to do better as a series. The first film was fantastic, so time will tell.
          Last edited by MIB41; Nov 23, '12, 7:17 PM.

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          • Brazoo
            Permanent Member
            • Feb 14, 2009
            • 4767

            #6
            Not really on topic, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who just keeps calling it "the third one".

            I feel old for admitting this - because I CLEARLY remember getting frustrated and thinking my parents were old and out of touch if they mixed up sequel titles when I was a kid - but if I have to remember the actual title I always stumble and my brain goes through something like ---

            "The Dark Knight Returns" was the comic, and "Batman Returns" was the Keaton series, and then there was "Superman Returns" so it's not "Returns" - but IN the plot he did go away and then returned - but it's not "Returns"...err...

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            • Earth 2 Chris
              Verbose Member
              • Mar 7, 2004
              • 32881

              #7
              Despite what Nolan said himself, I like to think there was more time in between Begins and DK. Joker showed up, left his card, and disappeared for a bit as he amassed some credentials, while Batman and Gordon worked on the mobs. Remember, Joker was OUTSIDE the mob, and Gotham's organized crime was VERY organized.

              I do think they should have paid some lip service to Batman being active as an outlaw for a bit in DKR, instead of just disappearing at the end of DK. But I can nitpick things like this in lots of films. As originally intended, Superman II would have taken place immediately following the first film, so Superman would have given up his powers pretty quickly just to bed Lois.

              Chris
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              • Megotu
                jerk
                • Dec 16, 2001
                • 10738

                #8
                I think it was more of an assault on the organized crime structure rather than the nightly assault on street crime most of us associate with Batman. Once he had tied his parents death to the Mob (was it Falcone? I think it was Falcone in the first movie...) via Joe Chill, the Mob became his only focus. The first movie was the main kingpin. The second movie was the enforcers and lieutenants. The third movie was sweeping out the consoldation of the leftovers. The supervillains were just tools that the Mob tried to use which always got out of hand. Falcone tries to harness Scarecrow who was actually working for Ra's..Maroni tries to hire Joker as a hitman, not realizing that wasn't Joker's forte. The developer tries to use Bane, not realizing he had a completely different agenda.
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                • kept back
                  Persistent Member
                  • Aug 2, 2002
                  • 1203

                  #9
                  Something that keeps getting glossed over is the Batcave. At the end of The Dark Knight Wayne Manor is (presumably) still rubble or being rebuilt. It seems unlikely that he would have built the cave into what we saw in Dark Knight Rises and then not use it. I think he kept going for awhile as Batman, just with a lower profile than what we saw in BB and TDK.
                  Of all the souls I have encountered his was the most...human.

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                  • ctc
                    Fear the monkeybat!
                    • Aug 16, 2001
                    • 11183

                    #10
                    >Something that keeps getting glossed over is the Batcave.

                    Here ya go:

                    the entire appeal of Batman is that he's the ultimate geek superhero; he's an antisocial loner whose strength is nothing compared to supernatural peers like Superman. Yet, he gets by on his intelligence. And he does it alone, with no help from anyone other than two employees. No family, no friends.


                    Don C.

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                    • Brazoo
                      Permanent Member
                      • Feb 14, 2009
                      • 4767

                      #11
                      Don't the logistics of the batcave get glossed over in every version of Batman though?

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                      • Wee67
                        Museum Correspondent
                        • Apr 2, 2002
                        • 10603

                        #12
                        This why the third movie failed for me (I love the second!). The Batman that I know and love is psychotically obsessed with fighting crime. The man IS Batman while Bruce Wayne is the fake identity. It's hard for me to rationalize how brief of time he fights crime/acts out his psychosis and then simply retires to some small Italian villiage. It just doesn't work for me.
                        WANTED - Solid-Boxed WGSH's, C.8 or better.

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                        • MIB41
                          Eloquent Member
                          • Sep 25, 2005
                          • 15633

                          #13
                          ^^^ I don't think it's out of choice, as much as physical restraints and the understanding someone else can adopt the cowl. He's a broken man by this point who has paid a lifetime's worth of pain to have this fitting retirement from the darkness of his life.

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                          • Earth 2 Chris
                            Verbose Member
                            • Mar 7, 2004
                            • 32881

                            #14
                            The psychotically obsessed Batman is actually a fairly new wrinkle to the character, mostly coming from Miller's Dark Knight. Denny O'Neil often wanted Batman to walk off in the sunset with Talia, and even had him do so in his last story for DC in the 70s before migrating to Marvel editorial. And of course the Earth Two Batman wed Catwoman and retired. I like my Batman more mentally healthy, personally.

                            Chris
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                            • BlackKnight
                              The DarkSide Customizer
                              • Apr 16, 2005
                              • 14622

                              #15
                              Obsessed Timmi-Verse is really all I see, or all I wanna see , unless it is an Elseworlds Tale.
                              & Ya ..., If it's a Toon, I only want Conory too.
                              ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


                              always trading for Hot Toys Figures .

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