Liefeld leaves DC Comics

[Random Axe]

ROb had A LOT of crap artists who aped his style and couldn't ink for crap. One of them was Norm Rapmund. He worked his craft all this time and is possibly the best inker at DC today. His work with Jurgens on Booster Gold was stellar. I can't really think of anyone else from the early Extreme Studios that are still working, though I'm sure there are a few.

I realize he's a no-talent, anatomically incorrect, cross-hatched gorilla turd, but he does have 20 plus years in the industry, so I do pay attention to what he says regarding editorial practices. I'm guessing the Mayan calendar ends for DC in Janurary.

[kingdom warrior]

ROb had A LOT of crap artists who aped his style and couldn't ink for crap. One of them was Norm Rapmund. He worked his craft all this time and is possibly the best inker at DC today. His work with Jurgens on Booster Gold was stellar. I can't really think of anyone else from the early Extreme Studios that are still working, though I'm sure there are a few.

I realize he's a no-talent, anatomically incorrect, cross-hatched gorilla turd, but he does have 20 plus years in the industry, so I do pay attention to what he says regarding editorial practices. I'm guessing the Mayan calendar ends for DC in Janurary.

True but he reminds me of a band that was hot for a moment.....you liked them at the time then you look back and go Wow they were really crappy! What was I thinking?....same thing here he was a hot artist then he made a jean commercial then made some noise when he left marvel...then took a giant nose dive when he couldn't keep a real work schedule with his own books then he got thrown out by the image guys and spurted with his own company coming out with garbage that no one wanted......had a little come back with Marvel but drew big teets on Captain America and left to draw the other Jack kirby captain america(forgot the heros name) and even then Stephen platt finished it for him... he was pretty much on the down low after that...

He only gets attention because some of those Image guys hooked him up with work at marvel and DC otherwise he'd either be publishing more Youngblood garbage or working at a shoe store.....he's not exactly on anyones Radar when a hero needs to be fixed...let's call anyone BUT liefield.....

[The Toyroom]

I didn't know Winnick and Simone left for the same reasons.

I didn't realize they had left DC either. I know Winnick is leaving "Catwoman" but that's all I heard...

[Earth 2 Chris]

At this rate, all that will be left at DC is the Marvel Bullpen of the 90s...when the company went bankrupt.

Chris

[Random Axe]

He only gets attention because some of those Image guys hooked him up with work at marvel and DC otherwise he'd either be publishing more Youngblood garbage or working at a shoe store....

I manage a shoe store and I would hesitate hiring him. Maybe Jim Valentino can have Rob reboot his Shadowhawk book. They're about at the same talent level, just Jim's a more likeable guy. I really enjoyed the energy Rob brought to his books, and he did have some cool looking characters. He just couldn't so anything with them.

[Figuremod73]

I prefer a good inker over most pencillers.

Ross Andru had a really good inker for many years; he would put up with Ross pressing down to hard on the paper. Terry Austin was great because he would add backgrounds for other artist (Like Byrne). Klaus Jansen worked well over Frank Miller. There are many examples.

I wonder if Liefield tries to shortcut and "draw in ink". Thats something that alot of the newer artist like to do.

[Random Axe]

If you look back at some of of Byrne's FF books, especially the later issues he drew them entirely with pen and sharpies. He did roughs with non-photo blue and just drew the whole thing in marker to save time. He still looks better than 90 percent of brush inkers.

[Figuremod73]

They need good idea people. It would have been better to have given Alex Ross, Simone, etc more say creatively.

I can tell they picked the wrong crew without reading many of the books.

[Figuremod73]

He uses PITT pens now. I think thats "sorta" like a sharpie?

[kingdom warrior]

I manage a shoe store and I would hesitate hiring him. Maybe Jim Valentino can have Rob reboot his Shadowhawk book. They're about at the same talent level, just Jim's a more likeable guy. I really enjoyed the energy Rob brought to his books, and he did have some cool looking characters. He just couldn't so anything with them.

Not that anything is wrong with working at a shoe store, i should have said that (Hope I did not offend if I did my apologies). True what Rob needed was to put his ego in check and allow someone to put his characters in order for him....but alas he was more show that substance. I met Valentino he was a really nice guy....not the best artist but i gave Shadowhawk a bit more of a chance than I did Rob's stuff....the only book i gave two hoots that he put out was Prophet and that was only when Stephen platt came on board....

[Random Axe]

I thought the shoe store analogy was perfect, I'm not offended. I'm 43 years old and wear a name tag. I don't have a lot of dignity left.

I would love for someone to take over those characters, re-work the backstories and just go nuts. There is so much potential there to be mined. Look what Moore did with Supreme. Youngblood could be a stellar book if he just steps back and lets talented people do what needs to be done. I guess he's the George Lucas of comics, just less rich.

[kingdom warrior]

He uses PITT pens now. I think thats "sorta" like a sharpie?

No they are not. they are water resistant and acid free pens. they are really nice to work with...the ink won't fade in time unlike markers

[Figuremod73]

They aint cheap. I've been wanting to get one just to play around with. Has to be better than using a brush; i still havent gotten use to them.

[kingdom warrior]

I thought the shoe store analogy was perfect, I'm not offended. I'm 43 years old and wear a name tag. I don't have a lot of dignity left.

I would love for someone to take over those characters, re-work the backstories and just go nuts. There is so much potential there to be mined. Look what Moore did with Supreme. Youngblood could be a stellar book if he just steps back and lets talented people do what needs to be done. I guess he's the George Lucas of comics, just less rich.

LOL!! OK! got you.

Yes agree, he had potential to do that. I just don't understand why he didn't especially when Hollywood came knocking. sometimes you step aside and allow other talented people to work out the kinks for you. Look how when Superman went to radio how much they added to his lore and made him better.
Same with Dave Stevens and the Rocketeer, he knew he was limited so he brought in others to help him....

Same would have happened if he would have taken his time and worked things out.....there is no shame in asking for help when you know you are knee deep in a mess....

[kingdom warrior]

They aint cheap. I've been wanting to get one just to play around with. Has to be better than using a brush; i still havent gotten use to them.

Nothing is better than using a brush....sorry BUT Pitt pens are worth every cent.....