Dark Knight Rises spoilers thread

[Hector]

Poor Hector, always backing the lamer hero.

If you think Supes is lame...then you have a poor concept of what a true superhero is...poor T-Sparkle...

[Hector]

OK...enough joking around...back to the topic at hand...

The twist with Al-Ghul's daughter being the mastermind, made Bane a lame duck in retrospect, and put a damper on the whole movie for me. The Wayne/Alfred nod at the end would have been better if Wayne were not with Catwoman. That was so the easy way out.

Catwoman's motivations were weak in general. "Clean Slate"? Who gives a crap? I could see if she was clearing a dead father's name or something. But a burglar worried about a criminal record? Come on now...that is lame, lol.

[Hector]

Has anyone here discussed or pointed out Hathaway's Catwoman's goggles/ears?

I guess Nolan didn't want straight up cat's ears (deemed too silly in his "real" world)...but to satisfy the comic geeks...Catwoman's raised goggles turn into ears...





Kinda clever...if you are not a purist that is...

[thunderbolt]

If you think Supes is lame...then you have a poor concept of what a true superhero is...poor T-Sparkle...

[MIB41]

I don't recall anyone actually giving her the Catwoman name.

[RickD]

Thats one thing I loved about the Dark Knight Rises. They never referred to Hathaway as Catwoman in the movie

[Brue]

I don't recall anyone actually giving her the Catwoman name.

The newspaper headline read that there was a Cat Burglar. That is as close as they got.

[Earth 2 Chris]

I liked Catwoman's story. I believed she wanted a clean slate, and needed one. Look how quickly Bruce found her?

I'll take this over "dead and revived by cats" any day.

And no, she was never called Catwoman.

Chris

[kingdom warrior]

I liked Catwoman's story. I believed she wanted a clean slate, and needed one. Look how quickly Bruce found her?

I'll take this over "dead and revived by cats" any day.



Chris

YUP!!!!!!!!

[Hector]

Dead and revived by cats, lol, yeah, that was pretty lame, lol.

[Gorn Captain]

I think it was a good film, but some of its greatest strengths are also its weaknesses.
Rises is almost like a war movie to me. It has an urban warfare feeling to it, especially with the two "armies" pitted against each other. I love those kind of movies, but it does take you away from the whole "Batman feel". Batman almost becomes just one of the soldiers in the drama. In a movie this long, you don't see much of Batman.
They have made it so grim, it almost becomes a catharsis. Like a Rocky movie. The good guys keep getting punched down by Bane's superior planning, and this goes on for a very long time. As a viewer, it wears you out.
That is not a bad thing, it's very good drama, but not really a fun viewing experience. It's like a very realistic horror movie that never relents.
To me, all this is strength and weakness.
My wife likes Batman movies, but this one wore her out. She looked away. And that's not what you want a viewer to do.
In the last 15 minutes, when the tides turns, you say "at last!", but by then you're almost physically tired of whole thing.

Again, I liked the movie a lot, and they took a lot of chances, pushing the envelope, and holding back nothing. In a way, it would have been more in synch with the bulk of the film that Batman had died at the end, and that his friends needed to go on without him. The happy ending seems a bit forced, as if they realized what a harsh ride it had been.

I think I need to see the movie again, to let it all sink in, and then make up my mind.
One thing is for sure, the message is: never stop fighting.

Btw,really liked Bane, hadn't expected that. Well played, a very intelligent character, and a force of Nature. Also enjoyed the little things, like the Scarecrow (did you notice how his jacket reflected on the character, almost with straw sticking out the shoulders)?

[pmwasson]

I just got back from seeing Batman. The way the city got cut off kind of reminded me of the video game Gotham City.

[Brue]

i pretty much felt this way:

I think it was a good film, but some of its greatest strengths are also its weaknesses.
Rises is almost like a war movie to me. It has an urban warfare feeling to it, especially with the two "armies" pitted against each other. I love those kind of movies, but it does take you away from the whole "Batman feel". Batman almost becomes just one of the soldiers in the drama. In a movie this long, you don't see much of Batman.
They have made it so grim, it almost becomes a catharsis. Like a Rocky movie. The good guys keep getting punched down by Bane's superior planning, and this goes on for a very long time. As a viewer, it wears you out.
That is not a bad thing, it's very good drama, but not really a fun viewing experience. It's like a very realistic horror movie that never relents.
To me, all this is strength and weakness.
My wife likes Batman movies, but this one wore her out. She looked away. And that's not what a viewer to do.
In the last 15 minutes, when the tides turns, you say "at last!", but by then you're almost physically tired of whole thing.

Again, I liked the movie a lot, and they took a lot of chances, pushing the envelope, and holding back nothing. In a way, it would have been more in synch with the bulk of the film that Batman had died at the end, and that his friends needed to go on without him. The happy ending seems a bit forced, as if they realized what a harsh ride it had been.

I think I need to see the movie again, to let it all sink in, and then make up my mind.
One thing is for sure, the message is: never stop fighting.

Btw,really liked Bane, hadn't expected that. Well played, a very intelligent character, and a force of Nature. Also enjoyed the little things, like the Scarecrow (did you notice how his jacket reflected on the character, almost with straw sticking out the shoulders)?

[palitoy]

Thought it was the "Return of the Jedi" of the franchise, meaning it was a solid wrap up but I preferred the first one and liked it's darker sequel.

This made me laugh though:

[Earth 2 Chris]

^Ha!!!

That's a good analogy. I'm still not sure how I feel about in relation to the other two movies. I do think it was a very good movie that tied up the series very nicely.

I'm going to see it again this weekend. I'll get back to you. :-)

Chris