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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #31
    Originally posted by emeraldknight47
    Yeah! It's good to see someone finally showing The King of Atlantis kicking some buttocks and taking names!

    I wonder if Hal is enjoying the taste of his own shoe leather [or whatever the soles of his uniform are made out of]. My only complaint with this new version of Green Lantern is that they seem to making him out to be basically a arrogant, cocky poophead instead of just a cocky, arrogant pilot.

    And, even though Aquaman may have the upper hand in this sequence, were the battle taking place in, let's say the Mojave Desert or in the airless void of space, Aquaman really wouldn't be of much use to them then, so I can see Hal's POV, too...
    Heroes shouldn't be talking to other heroes like that...GL is acting like a pretentious pompous villain with that kinda attitude...and I'm not even an Aquaman fan (I prefer Namor)...but I gotta back him up on this one.
    Last edited by Hector; Dec 23, '11, 3:06 AM.
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    • ctc
      Fear the monkeybat!
      • Aug 16, 2001
      • 11183

      #32
      >I've seen this sort of thing a lot before and it's not new.

      Fair enough, but repetition in general; especially of a schtick, is pretty rampant throughout super-dom.

      >It just seems that they're all taking the same approach, "let's call him lame and then have him be a total badass"

      Hmmmm.... "Aquaman is a wuss" has been a thing for a while, and I can see wanting.... nay, NEEDING to address that in the comic; but yeah the "I'm BAD!" thing is played out. (I didn't buy it back in the mid-80's when he was part of Justice League Detroit.)

      But it does go towards the qunundrum that is Aquaman: he's competent, but limited. If the bad guys attack anywhere inland he's out. And if you give him a magic disco-landsuit (I'm looking disapprovingly at YOU, 70's Namor) folks will cry shennanegins 'cos you're just doing an end-run around his weakness: an established part of his character. So he ends up being one of DC's cornerstone characters.... but one that you have to be remarkably finnicky about having team up with the rest.

      >everytime I see him he's stabbing things with his trident.

      He's been carrying it since the 60's, he might as well get some use out of it. The only weird point for me: tridents are used to catch fish, something Aquaman wouldn't need to worry about.... so why does he have it at all? Royal symbol, maybe?

      Don C.

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      • jds1911a1
        Alan Scott is the best GL
        • Aug 8, 2007
        • 3556

        #33
        Originally posted by ctc
        >I've seen this sort of thing a lot before and it's not new.

        Fair enough, but repetition in general; especially of a schtick, is pretty rampant throughout super-dom.

        >It just seems that they're all taking the same approach, "let's call him lame and then have him be a total badass"

        Hmmmm.... "Aquaman is a wuss" has been a thing for a while, and I can see wanting.... nay, NEEDING to address that in the comic; but yeah the "I'm BAD!" thing is played out. (I didn't buy it back in the mid-80's when he was part of Justice League Detroit.)

        But it does go towards the qunundrum that is Aquaman: he's competent, but limited. If the bad guys attack anywhere inland he's out. And if you give him a magic disco-landsuit (I'm looking disapprovingly at YOU, 70's Namor) folks will cry shennanegins 'cos you're just doing an end-run around his weakness: an established part of his character. So he ends up being one of DC's cornerstone characters.... but one that you have to be remarkably finnicky about having team up with the rest.

        >everytime I see him he's stabbing things with his trident.

        He's been carrying it since the 60's, he might as well get some use out of it. The only weird point for me: tridents are used to catch fish, something Aquaman wouldn't need to worry about.... so why does he have it at all? Royal symbol, maybe?

        Don C.
        Trident
        Psoeidon is usually depicted with one so I'm sure it was co-opted for that reason

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        • thunderbolt
          Hi Ernie!!!
          • Feb 15, 2004
          • 34211

          #34
          wonder if Aquaman chews Trident gum?
          You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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          • The Bat
            Batman Fanatic
            • Jul 14, 2002
            • 13412

            #35
            Originally posted by thunderbolt
            wonder if Aquaman chews Trident gum?
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            • thunderbolt
              Hi Ernie!!!
              • Feb 15, 2004
              • 34211

              #36
              refreshing lobster mint flavor.
              You must try to generate happiness within yourself. If you aren't happy in one place, chances are you won't be happy anyplace. -Ernie Banks

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              • samurainoir
                Eloquent Member
                • Dec 26, 2006
                • 18758

                #37
                Originally posted by palitoy
                No that's not it although I see your point. It's just I've seen this sort of thing a lot before and it's not new.

                It's nice that DC has a rouster of artists and writers taking Aquaman seriously, I totally love that. It just seems that they're all taking the same approach, "let's call him lame and then have him be a total badass" Seriously, everytime I see him he's stabbing things with his trident.
                Your totalLy right, but I think we can only attribute that trick to one lone writer.. Geoff Johns, who's been the only one to pen aquaman for the past few years in Blackest Night, Broghtest Day and now JL and Aquaman. Yeah, it's the same bag of tricks, but I think it plays well as remixed self aware popular entertainment. Particularly with the Jim lee art.
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                • samurainoir
                  Eloquent Member
                  • Dec 26, 2006
                  • 18758

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ctc
                  >And if you give him a magic disco-landsuit (I'm looking disapprovingly at YOU, 70's Namor)




                  What's even funnier is the fact that he's back to wearing an even worse version of that costume in the pages of the XMen and Defenders. It's like him and Dazzler are now borrowing each other's clothes.

                  Last edited by samurainoir; Dec 24, '11, 3:08 PM.
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                  • samurainoir
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Dec 26, 2006
                    • 18758

                    #39
                    There is an upcoming storyline supposedly explaining what is so special out his trident and why he carries it around, they have alluded to the fact that it is one object of power amidst a set.

                    I am still waiting patiently for The Dark Tusky saga.
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                    • jwyblejr
                      galactic yo-yo
                      • Apr 6, 2006
                      • 11147

                      #40
                      Originally posted by thunderbolt
                      refreshing lobster mint flavor.
                      Not butter flavor?

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                      • Figuremod73
                        That 80's guy
                        • Jul 27, 2011
                        • 3017

                        #41
                        Im one of those that happen to like the old 70s Namor costume but i DONT like that new one. That seashell is just plain horrible.
                        Choosing between Aquaman and Namor is a tough one. I would say i would always like the originator better but i dont know who came before who. Who IS the older character? Namor can be a tough advisary, especally when hes fighting for a cause he believes in. He doesnt even need to be in a water environment. Im always rooting for Aquaman when hes a big part of a story though. Love the Justice League no matter the member.

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                        • enyawd72
                          Maker of Monsters!
                          • Oct 1, 2009
                          • 7904

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Figuremod73
                          Im one of those that happen to like the old 70s Namor costume but i DONT like that new one. That seashell is just plain horrible.
                          Choosing between Aquaman and Namor is a tough one. I would say i would always like the originator better but i dont know who came before who. Who IS the older character? Namor can be a tough advisary, especally when hes fighting for a cause he believes in. He doesnt even need to be in a water environment. Im always rooting for Aquaman when hes a big part of a story though. Love the Justice League no matter the member.
                          Namor first appeared in April 1939...
                          Aquaman didn't show up til September 1941.

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                          • Figuremod73
                            That 80's guy
                            • Jul 27, 2011
                            • 3017

                            #43
                            Thanks for the info. I think it was Marvel comics. (way before the company) It was a theater give-a-way.
                            (i could be confusing it with the human torches first appearence)

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                            • Random Axe
                              The Voice of Reason
                              • Apr 16, 2008
                              • 4518

                              #44
                              I've never understood the historic disrespect Aquaman has received. I understand the humor derived from the jokes and I find a lot of it quite funny. I just don't get the foundation from which they come.

                              Waaaay back when I was a diehard role playing gamer, we had several superhero games and variations of games that incorporated DC characters into the fold. Aquaman was always considered a badass. If he can move just as fast as we can while underwater, imagine how fast he'd be on the surface, his reflexes would be insane. He's got to be fairly invulnerable to survive the depths of the oceans and immensely strong. He also has limited telekinetic powers to communicate with sea life. Not the most useful power, but still can prove to be handy.

                              I also like the new design. He looks the part now, but I always liked the orange/green motif. I really hope Johns can keep the momentum going. Plenty of other writer ran out of steam with the character. Reis is maybe the best artist in comtemporary comics, but I think he'll get bored of drawing oceans, fish and lighthouses. I'm cautiously optimistic for his future.

                              The way the Justice League book is starting is horrendous. It reeks of hack job, amateur night. This was a HUGE mistake to start your flagship book as a prequel of sorts. Four issues in and it's nothing more than a junk-measuring contest.
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                              • number 6
                                Village Idiot
                                • Jul 10, 2003
                                • 629

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Random Axe
                                I've never understood the historic disrespect Aquaman has received. I understand the humor derived from the jokes and I find a lot of it quite funny. I just don't get the foundation from which they come.
                                I completely agree. I guess it stems from the fact that, to have Aquaman as part of the Justice League/Super Friends you have to take him out of an environment where he works, the ocean, and put him in a setting where his powers are useless or superseded by those of other heroes.

                                But what's odd is there are dozens of issues where Batman, who everyone thinks is super-cool, is put in an environments, like snow-capped mountains/deserts/outer space, where his bat costume serves no useful purpose and he looks absurd. And nobody seems to have a problem with that.

                                The irony is that making Aquaman part of the Justice League back in the 60's is what gave him the exposure to get his own title. But at the same time, being part of the that team is what opened him up to this kind of ridicule.

                                But I'm like you, I still don't get how that makes him surpassingly more absurd than any other costumed superhero.

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