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  • Earth 2 Chris
    Verbose Member
    • Mar 7, 2004
    • 32974

    #16
    ^That version appeared BEFORE Terminator, I believe. Besides, Harlan Ellison already sued over the concept.

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    • Figuremod73
      That 80's guy
      • Jul 27, 2011
      • 3017

      #17
      For many years I thought Perez designed the 80s version of brainiac, it turned out it was Ed Hannigan. (another underrated artist).
      I think Ellison sued because maybe elements in the story were his? Im not sure. If anyone knows the name of the story let me know because ive always wanted to read it.

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      • Figuremod73
        That 80's guy
        • Jul 27, 2011
        • 3017

        #18
        Wikimedia Error cyborgs used in fiction

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        • Figuremod73
          That 80's guy
          • Jul 27, 2011
          • 3017

          #19
          Wikimedia Error androids in fiction

          hardly a complete list on either links

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          • thunderbolt
            Hi Ernie!!!
            • Feb 15, 2004
            • 34211

            #20
            Originally posted by Figuremod73
            For many years I thought Perez designed the 80s version of brainiac, it turned out it was Ed Hannigan. (another underrated artist).
            I think Ellison sued because maybe elements in the story were his? Im not sure. If anyone knows the name of the story let me know because ive always wanted to read it.
            Yeah, see the Outer Limits episode "Soldier" Ellison wrote it and it involves two time travelling warriors on opposite sides of the fence.
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            • Earth 2 Chris
              Verbose Member
              • Mar 7, 2004
              • 32974

              #21
              For many years I thought Perez designed the 80s version of brainiac, it turned out it was Ed Hannigan. (another underrated artist).
              I think Ellison sued because maybe elements in the story were his? Im not sure. If anyone knows the name of the story let me know because ive always wanted to read it.
              Perez did design Luthor's battle armor which debuted in the same issue of Action.

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              • Figuremod73
                That 80's guy
                • Jul 27, 2011
                • 3017

                #22
                Im very fond of the Superman stories of that time period leading up to superpowers.
                Thanks for the info guys. Ive gotta hunt down that episode to see just how much was "borrowed" now,lol.

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                • samurainoir
                  Eloquent Member
                  • Dec 26, 2006
                  • 18758

                  #23
                  Originally posted by thunderbolt
                  Yeah, see the Outer Limits episode "Soldier" Ellison wrote it and it involves two time travelling warriors on opposite sides of the fence.
                  Ellison ends up suing someone over this often enough... Or at least going after them. Bill Mantlo cribbed it for a story in the Hulk, and Ellison settled for a credit and lifetime subscription to Marvel comics. James Cameron didn't fare so well, having actually gone on record saying Terminator was influenced by two outer limits episodes, including Soldier.
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                  • samurainoir
                    Eloquent Member
                    • Dec 26, 2006
                    • 18758

                    #24
                    The final fate of Gary Frank's Brainiac before the reboot


                    Hugely disappointed by the Kid Flash Fashpoint mini which was supposed to be a huge tie in to the main storyline. Particularly since it dealt with a potential Brainiac future. It just kind of felt like filler all around.
                    Last edited by samurainoir; Dec 12, '11, 6:36 PM.
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                    • samurainoir
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                      • Dec 26, 2006
                      • 18758

                      #25
                      Lest we forget Brainac 13...
                      Last edited by samurainoir; Dec 12, '11, 6:41 PM.
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                      • Figuremod73
                        That 80's guy
                        • Jul 27, 2011
                        • 3017

                        #26
                        I really cant understand how he can sue over something thats influenced by something he wrote. Everything is usually influenced by what came before in one way or another. You dont see Bram Stokers estate going after everything thats remotely similiar to Dracula. Its one of the most rehashed ideas in literature. If they did they did they would have a busy set of lawyers...

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                        • Figuremod73
                          That 80's guy
                          • Jul 27, 2011
                          • 3017

                          #27
                          what the heck is that from? the new voltron? lol

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                          • samurainoir
                            Eloquent Member
                            • Dec 26, 2006
                            • 18758

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Figuremod73
                            what the heck is that from? the new voltron? lol
                            That is who Brainiac 13 wishes he were when he grows up.

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                            • samurainoir
                              Eloquent Member
                              • Dec 26, 2006
                              • 18758

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Figuremod73
                              I really cant understand how he can sue over something thats influenced by something he wrote. Everything is usually influenced by what came before in one way or another. You dont see Bram Stokers estate going after everything thats remotely similiar to Dracula. Its one of the most rehashed ideas in literature. If they did they did they would have a busy set of lawyers...
                              Dracula has been in public domain a good long time.

                              The novel has been in the public domain in the United States since its original publication because Stoker failed to follow proper copyright procedure. In the United Kingdom and other countries following the Berne Convention on copyrights, however, the novel was under copyright until April 1962, fifty years after Stoker's death.[9] When F. W. Murnau's unauthorized film adaptation Nosferatu was released in 1922, the popularity of the novel increased considerably, owing to the controversy caused when Stoker's widow tried to have the film removed from public circulation
                              The "smoking gun" was that Cameron himself admitted the influence of the Outer Limits episodes... Which was enough for Orion to settle with Ellison, and give him a credit in subsequent releases of the film, in TV, home video etc. Otherwise Orion told Cameron that he'd bear the cost of the lawsuit if Ellison won. So it never actually reached the courts.
                              Last edited by samurainoir; Dec 12, '11, 7:20 PM.
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                              • ctc
                                Fear the monkeybat!
                                • Aug 16, 2001
                                • 11183

                                #30
                                >The "smoking gun" was that Cameron himself admitted the influence of the Outer Limits episodes

                                ....which is a shame, 'cos I don't think Ellison would have had a case otherwise.

                                >That is who Brainiac 13 wishes he were when he grows up.

                                HAW! Could be the guy in the lower right corner:

                                Wikimedia Error

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