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  • Hector
    el Hombre de Acero
    • May 19, 2003
    • 31852

    #91
    Exactly...Brue...

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    • Hector
      el Hombre de Acero
      • May 19, 2003
      • 31852

      #92
      Originally posted by magyar1964
      I've always had a problem with this myself. In the beginning the amount of time and MAJOR ANGST spent on his unrequited love of Lana was wasteful of story time, IMO. Besides, how can you feel for a character when you already know it's not going to last and he's destined to be with Lois?


      While I agree about the physics, this type of thing has it's always been there in the comics. Pre Crisis Superman made and moved planets and even for today's Superman - any time he lifts something huge and heavy from 1 small point it would either break or he'd go through it. If I remember correctly they came up with something about him having an "aura" and that affects thing when he does some feat like that.

      I also wish that the defeat of Darkseid had been handled differently. Yes it would have been nice to have a real fight between Darkseid and Superman but the show stayed true to it motto of not really showing him in the suit. OK, but all though the show he was being told he was the "symbol light" to drive away the darkness and I thought that his S symbol ( which he had been leaving all over the place as the "Blur" ) would be seen in the sky by all the people and give them hope that the Blur would save them and that hope would break the darkness in them and remove the Omega symbol. Then with that connection broken Apokolips would have gone back to where it came from.

      Still, I watched the series from the start and a part of me will miss it.
      Good post...

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      • Hector
        el Hombre de Acero
        • May 19, 2003
        • 31852

        #93
        Originally posted by Earth 2 Chris
        That's very big of you Hector, to give it a shot.

        Yeah, the whole Apokolips thing wasn't well thought out. I wish they'd just had Darkseid show up and declare himself ruler of Earth, and order everyone to go out and start looking for Anti-Life or whatever. Then Superman and him could have had a smackdown.

        I think their ambition got the better of them there. They liked the concept of a threat of that magnitude, but couldn't quite pull it off.

        Chris

        Agreed...and thank you for the compliments...I gave them a decent effort...

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        • GlobalObserver
          Persistent Member
          • Aug 12, 2004
          • 2220

          #94
          This guy REALLY liked the Smallville series finale.

          http://youtu.be/z07MMlFqGvQ

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          • Hector
            el Hombre de Acero
            • May 19, 2003
            • 31852

            #95
            Originally posted by GlobalObserver
            This guy REALLY liked the Smallville series finale.

            http://youtu.be/z07MMlFqGvQ
            I could only take a few seconds of it.

            He needs to either find a girl...or me hitting him over the head with a baseball bat...




            P.S. Could've been faked though...you never know.
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            • ODBJBG
              Permanent Member
              • May 15, 2009
              • 3200

              #96
              Baffled that people thought the Legion of Doom was going to be in this.

              Anyway, I enjoyed it. It could have been better, but most of what people wanted were elements that have never been a part of this show.

              To be honest, so much of Superman is generally hokey (and yeah I'm a fan but it's just fact) that it doesn't work well to modern adult audiences. It may work in comics, but it does not work to masses. Smallville was always big on playing up comic elements in new ways, to avoid some of Supe's general lameness. I think that was a big part of why they didn't have him running around in his underwear for half the finale. It would have came off as cheese.

              The only thing I really didn't like, was the comic thing. Seemed like DC was just trying to push a comic into the story to help sell some funny books or something, lol. I'm guessing there's a whole audience that doesn't read comics that watches Smallville and I suspect they were trying to tap into that. Pointless, but whatever.

              It could of been better, but it wasn't terrible and it was a good sendoff to a otherwise pretty great show.
              Last edited by ODBJBG; May 25, '11, 3:23 AM.

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              • Earth 2 Chris
                Verbose Member
                • Mar 7, 2004
                • 32932

                #97
                To be honest, so much of Superman is generally hokey (and yeah I'm a fan but it's just fact) that it doesn't work well to modern adult audiences.
                Is Zack Snyder already influencing everyone? I don't think there is anything "hokier" about Superman than any other comic book super hero. Is he hokier than Thor, with his Shakespearian dialog and overwrought father/son drama, for instance? Thor is raking in the dough and getting great word of mouth from general audiences.

                I think Superman is just like any other property. If it is well crafted and presented, people will come. Sure, there are some old trappings of Superman lore that are best left discarded, but the same is true for ANY property that is over 70 years old. The basic core concepts of Superman are still as valid, and potentially entertaining as they were in 1938.

                Sorry, but it's really starting to stick in my craw that folks keep bandying about that Superman is an antiquated has-been that has to be rebuilt from the ground up or something. It doesn't help when the big-time director of his new movie apparently thinks so and just has to scream it at the top of his lungs.

                Chris
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                • ODBJBG
                  Permanent Member
                  • May 15, 2009
                  • 3200

                  #98
                  A lot of Thor was reworked for movie audiences as well. Everything gets reworked. Spider-man and X-Men were reworked to an extent too.

                  I agree with you, that if it's well crafted and well presented it will work. However, Smallville, from the outset, was different. The whole world was built upon deconstructing the Superman mythos and very clearly at times, poking fun at some of the hokey elements and saying "we're not gonna do that"... So I can't fathom why they would do that in the finale.

                  Not that Smallville didn't do it's own cheese. Sometimes they would try to prevent something hokey, only to end up with something just as hokey. Smallville still for the most part, coped with them in various ways.

                  I dig Superman, but there are unmistakable elements that hold the property back in the era of Facebook and Twitter. They didn't in the 70's with Reeves, but a lot of that was the right time and the right place. Superman as a character has been struggling to connect with a lot of people for a while now even if he is the prototypical hero. There are reasons for this. It's not just made up.

                  As for Snyder, I have no idea. I haven't read or seen anything on his Superman. Rather than reinvent the character, I'd rather see him do something retro. Make it a period piece and give everyone the Superman they want, in an era that he can be himself, but that's just me.

                  But as a Smallville fan, I used to wonder how they were gonna "fix" everything and make this a more traditional telling of Superman's mythos. As they started to untie the knots, a lot of me just wished they hadn't been so beholden to many of the elements.

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                  • Brue
                    User without title
                    • Sep 29, 2005
                    • 4246

                    #99
                    Originally posted by ODBJBG
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                    But as a Smallville fan, I used to wonder how they were gonna "fix" everything and make this a more traditional telling of Superman's mythos. As they started to untie the knots, a lot of me just wished they hadn't been so beholden to many of the elements.

                    they don't need to fix any of it since it was an elseworlds tale. no one fixed Miller's "the dark knight returns"

                    but i believe just like tdkr, smallville will leave an impression on the main DC universe.

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                    • samurainoir
                      Eloquent Member
                      • Dec 26, 2006
                      • 18758

                      Originally posted by ODBJBG
                      Baffled that people thought the Legion of Doom was going to be in this.
                      Other than the fact that they assembled them and showed them in the preceding episode? It is a bit of a dangling plot thread and does leave you wondering if they are setting up some kind of spinoff.

                      What's the saying... never introduce a gun in the first act unless you're going to fire it by the third?
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                      • Brue
                        User without title
                        • Sep 29, 2005
                        • 4246

                        Originally posted by ODBJBG
                        Baffled that people thought the Legion of Doom was going to be in this.
                        how did you not think thry would be?

                        see above post

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