Smallville: Series Finale!

[samurainoir]

Finally watched the last few all the way through in one shot.

I'm a total sap for all the Lois and Clark character stuff over all the necessary superheroic posturing. I can only image what this would have been like if they had a huge budget to work with rather than their TV limitations.

Nice to see Lex again, although I really wanted to see him and Clark finally go at it gloves off.

great moments with Pa kent.

[Earth 2 Chris]

great moments with Pa kent.

I think that is one thing that made the finale work for me. The show hasn't been the same without Jonathan to anchor it. It's almost as if the producers were acknowledging the mistake and making up for it. John Schneider is a very underrated actor. His Pa Kent is now my favorite.

Chris

[Spyweb007]

If that was indeed the suit from Superman Returns it probably wouldn't have fit Tom Welling properly, having been custom built for Brandon Routh. Might be the reason there was no real "Hero" shot of him in the suit.

[Brue]

Finale is now available online at CW

[Brue]

Honestly I was really hoping to see a guest appearance from Pete. sure it would have been pointless but still it might have been nice. actually the more I think about it, Nah. They did fine just the way they did.

just watching the show again I see Pete is in it.

just a nod, but he is there.

as chloe reads the comic in the beginning he is in the final panel of it with lana and chloe bringing the clubhouse kids together (the part of the show that was the central theme for 4 seasons but nearly ignored altogether in the finale because it no longer mattered to the show the show's plot line 6 years later)

[Earth 2 Chris]

It's reairing tonight on CW if anyone wants to watch it again on old-school TV.

Chris

[Brue]

Yeah, that's my guess. I really don't think it was Welling refusing to do it. They took it too far otherwise.

So the little kid...future Speedy?

on second viewing i think it is not speedy but rather a hint that in this Elseworlds tale Oliver ends up with Chloe not Dinah.

[Earth 2 Chris]

Ollie and Chloe are married in the Smallville-verse. They got hitched while intoxicated by Zatanna's magic, but decided to stick together. Looks like they are still together 7 years later. So the kid could be Ollie's actual son that becomes Speedy. The red and yellow arrows clinched it for me.

Now, never mind the forgotten Mia/Speedy from last season...

Chris

[Hulk]

If that was indeed the suit from Superman Returns it probably wouldn't have fit Tom Welling properly, having been custom built for Brandon Routh. Might be the reason there was no real "Hero" shot of him in the suit.

In the previous episodes, it looked like Routh's suit, but it was behind ice or crystal or whatever. When they brought it out, it looked like a similar design, but was clearly more color correct. Primary Blue, Yellow and Red.

[Hector]

I didn't want to post...many of you know I love Superman...but have always disliked Smallville.

But I gave in...and watched the season finale for the heck of it.

Any good parts?

Yes...finally wearing the Brandon Routh suit ( ) caused me to hate Tom Welling a little bit less...but don't get carried away...I still quite don't like him as Supes...but I'll give him a miniscule prop here...lol.

The John Williams music at the end gave me chills...it doesn't matter that it was in Smallville...that was great.

The special-effects were impressive...especially for a CW Network show.


Ok...now on to the bad... ...

I HATE the 90120, Party of Five, soap-opera-chick-flick...feel of the series.

All this nonsense lovey-dovey-gosh-shucks emasculation of Clark Kent by all these women...do this...do that...marry me...don't marry me...and blah, blah, blah, blah....GOOD GRIEF...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

I want a SUPERMAN...not some male high school cheerleader for Christ's sake...lol.

I don't like Superman being portrayed as the bloody Flash. Yeah, I know, he's supposed to be fast...but that's not the way I want to see Supes operate...I want that old school up, up, and away look...not some super freak track star...that's so annoying to me (that's the one thing that bugs me about HBO's True Blood as well). Oh yeah...the opposite also bugs the heck out of me...enough with the slow-motion too...I swear...this Supes is the Ying /Yang of superheroes...make up your bloody mind already...lol.

Ok...and now on to this planet collision thing...oh boy. I bet geologists, astronomers, astrophysicis, etc...were rolling on the floor laughing their collective butts off...lol.

First I see...is a planet the size of Saturn (which brushed off some of its rings).

When it approaches Earth...almost side-by-side...they are almost equal in size.

By the time it's hovering above Metropolis...the planet is barely bigger than the city itself...

Also...I know Superman is very strong and all...but come on...him pushing a planet aside like that was even more unbelievable than Brandon Routh's island push from ocean to orbit...lol.

The thing is that no matter how strong Superman is...it's not possible for a small force like that (no matter how strong) to conventionally push a giant object like that. He would simply go through the planet...just like a tiny piece of black hole would do (to Earth).

But don't hate me...Smallville fans...I did give it some props...it was not all negative...so please spare my lowly life...lol.

I give it a C+

[Hector]

BTW...that's why the planet scene was so silly...this is a size-to-size comparison between Saturn and Earth...




Remember...when that rogue planet was headed to Earth...and zoomed past by Saturn and its rings...they were similar in size...but by some kind of magic...it was reduced to Metropolis size...lol.

Had it been done correctly...the entire sky on Earth would've been covered entirely by the rogue planet's surface (providing that side of the world was facing the rogue planet, like in Metropolis)....no concept of a round planet would've been seen at all...think of it as rogue planet sky.

BTW...all life would've been long dead (not to mention the oceans acting a "tad" funny, lol) before it even gotten that close to Earth anyway...

[The Toyroom]

^ Planet problems and yet you believe a man can fly?

[Earth 2 Chris]

That's very big of you Hector, to give it a shot.

Yeah, the whole Apokolips thing wasn't well thought out. I wish they'd just had Darkseid show up and declare himself ruler of Earth, and order everyone to go out and start looking for Anti-Life or whatever. Then Superman and him could have had a smackdown.

I think their ambition got the better of them there. They liked the concept of a threat of that magnitude, but couldn't quite pull it off.

Chris

[Mego Magyar]

Ok...now on to the bad... ...

I HATE the 90120, Party of Five, soap-opera-chick-flick...feel of the series.

All this nonsense lovey-dovey-gosh-shucks emasculation of Clark Kent by all these women...do this...do that...marry me...don't marry me...and blah, blah, blah, blah....GOOD GRIEF...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

I want a SUPERMAN...not some male high school cheerleader for Christ's sake...lol.

I've always had a problem with this myself. In the beginning the amount of time and MAJOR ANGST spent on his unrequited love of Lana was wasteful of story time, IMO. Besides, how can you feel for a character when you already know it's not going to last and he's destined to be with Lois?

Also...I know Superman is very strong and all...but come on...him pushing a planet aside like that was even more unbelievable than Brandon Routh's island push from ocean to orbit...lol.

The thing is that no matter how strong Superman is...it's not possible for a small force like that (no matter how strong) to conventionally push a giant object like that. He would simply go through the planet...just like a tiny piece of black hole would do (to Earth).

While I agree about the physics, this type of thing has it's always been there in the comics. Pre Crisis Superman made and moved planets and even for today's Superman - any time he lifts something huge and heavy from 1 small point it would either break or he'd go through it. If I remember correctly they came up with something about him having an "aura" and that affects thing when he does some feat like that.

I also wish that the defeat of Darkseid had been handled differently. Yes it would have been nice to have a real fight between Darkseid and Superman but the show stayed true to it motto of not really showing him in the suit. OK, but all though the show he was being told he was the "symbol of light" to drive away the darkness and I thought that his S symbol ( which he had been leaving all over the place as the "Blur" ) would be seen in the sky by all the people and give them hope that the Blur would save them and that hope would break the darkness in them and remove the Omega symbol. Then with that connection broken Apokolips would have gone back to where it came from.

Still, I watched the series from the start and a part of me will miss it.

[Brue]

^ Planet problems and yet you believe a man can fly?

I'm with Hec here (mostly).

In fiction esp. Sci Fiction we are asked to suspend our disbelieve in a particular area. In order for the story to then be believable within that, the rest needs to be solid.

so if he pushed on this thing hard enough to move it - he would go through it not move it. even if he didn't go through, i also think it would be too big for him to move with the power the show has given him.

so that fact that we believe a man can fly does not mean we need to throw away all of our beliefs and scientific knowledge.

as far as the actual size- it may never have been as big as you suggested Hector - perspective is skewed when one object is in the foreground. reference Saturday Night Lives "I'm crushing your head" skit. Your fingurs are not actually larger than the head you are crushing - they are just closer to your eye.