New Pic of Thor, Odin and Loki

[Meule]

Thor's costume doesn't look that bad (should have a helmet tho), but Odin and Loki really do look like Necromongers. Why does every costume these days have to look like that?

[ctc]

>Why does every costume these days have to look like that?

It's the current "right" way to do it. The gods in Clash of the Titans kinda looked like that, but sparklier.

As for the whole gods idea.... in the Marvel universe, gods (like the Asgardians) fall into the "super powerful extradimensional being" category, so they're sort of aliens already. Which is why I'm kinda hoping they don't go the "they're aliens from another planet in THIS dimension" route. There's no need to, and that muddies things for other intergalactic godlike beings in the Marvel universe.

Don C.

[samurainoir]

>Why does every costume these days have to look like that?

It's the current "right" way to do it. The gods in Clash of the Titans kinda looked like that, but sparklier.

As for the whole gods idea.... in the Marvel universe, gods (like the Asgardians) fall into the "super powerful extradimensional being" category, so they're sort of aliens already. Which is why I'm kinda hoping they don't go the "they're aliens from another planet in THIS dimension" route. There's no need to, and that muddies things for other intergalactic godlike beings in the Marvel universe.

Don C.

I seem to recall that was the Marvel Handbook def back in the eighties under Shooter's watch wasn't it?

[ctc]

>that was the Marvel Handbook def back in the eighties under Shooter's watch wasn't it?

Yeah.... but I THINK the seed was planted earlier. Marvel turned away from the supernatural and spiritual during the late 70's. (Which I kinda felt was a result of the merchandaization/kiddifying of their books, and the sci-fi influence of Star Wars.)

Don C.

[knight errant00]

>Yeah.... but I THINK the seed was planted earlier. Marvel turned away from the supernatural and spiritual during the late 70's. (Which I kinda felt was a result of the merchandaization/kiddifying of their books, and the sci-fi influence of Star Wars.)

I think it was also Jim Shooter -- that guy, at that point, really seemed obsessed with making comic stories "real" (anybody remember that Star Brand character having to carry maps in his jacket so when he flew around, he could follow highways from the air and not get lost?) and there's an odd contingent of SF types (remember your post on hard SF, Don?) who find the idea of super-powerful, extra-dimensional aliens far more plausible than ancient, supernatural beings.

I just think it adds a whole layer of needless complication over a movie story that (from what I've read so far) is already a fantasy adventure that bounces between the mythical realm and the modern world . . . grafting the "Chariots of the Gods" thing to it just seems like overkill. I won't say it can't work, just that, from the current view, it seems a bit much.

[ctc]

>grafting the "Chariots of the Gods" thing to it just seems like overkill

Yeah; especially since:
-it's not really neccessary. (Nobody felt the need to explain the gods of Asgard when the comic STARTED)
-it muddies things up 'cos it makes the Asgardians into the Eternals.

Don C.

[Hector]

I like your explaination, Hector, but for a comic movie the idea of more than one god, especially from actual history shouldn't be that offensive. You may be right though, as an attempt to broaden the appeal. There are even still people who worship the Norse gods, and then some people also think we are all aliens.

[Hector]

That is exactly what I thought! The second I saw that pic I heard Queen "FLASH - ah aaah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah..."

I appreciate attempt at Kirby touches - but it looks like poop to me.

I do think the alien thing makes sense - for the reasons Hector pointed out, but also for the fact that if we're suppose to still care about Tony Stark's amazing technology they can't suddenly introduce actual magic.

I know it works in the comics to have super-technology AND actual magic in the same universe - but in the context of live action I think they work against each other.

Good points.

[Hector]

I actually like the idea that the Asgardians are a advanced race of beings that ancient peoples worshiped as gods. There may be a fine line some where.

See...if you can accept that...we all should too...

[johnmiic]

>grafting the "Chariots of the Gods" thing to it just seems like overkill

Yeah; especially since:
-it's not really neccessary. (Nobody felt the need to explain the gods of Asgard when the comic STARTED)
-it muddies things up 'cos it makes the Asgardians into the Eternals.

Don C.

I think it's the narrow-mindedness of either the Script-writer or the Director. One or both seems unable to just say the Asgardians are ancient gods or god-like. They feel the need to rationalize them. You can do that but then you take away the mystique` of those characters. Just like explaining the ability to wield The Force in Phantom Menace is dependent on a blood condition. In this case it probably just someone who has no connection to the original source material and has to change it because they can't accept it. Makes no sense in light of all the Fantasy films that have come out in the years since LOTR.

[clemso]

BY ODIN'S BLOOD!!! WE HAVE HELMETS!
New Photo From Thor Debuts

[Earth 2 Chris]

^ Yeah, but THOR DOESN'T! Of course, maybe he doffed it honor of the High-Father.

Verily.

Chris