Ready for a Black Peter Parker/Spiderman?

[Hector]

I didn't like it when Sci-Fi made Starbuck female. I didn't like it when they changed Boomer into and Asian woman. I didn't like it when they changed Tigh into a white guy.

Yet...the new Battlestar Galactica tuned out to be much superior to the original...



How about Admiral Adama being played by a beaner...mmm?

[Werewolf]

My opinion is that comics have been dying because of fanboy's demand that everything stay within a strict continuity;

Done preaching to us? Okay, good.

I'm just teasing.

I've said it before in this thread, I don't like changing the race and genders of characters.

I didn't like it when Sci-Fi made Starbuck female. I didn't like it when they changed Boomer into and Asian woman. I didn't like it when they changed Tigh into a white guy.

My opinion is, if you are not going to be true to the source material. Make your own damn story. On a related note, I didn't really care for Sci-Fi's cringe worthy re-imagining of Flash Gordon. Let's be honest here, it didn't even need to be called Flash Gordon.

And, also, as I stated earlier, I really dislike non-native actors playing native roles. I mean I really, really, REALLY don't like that. I have my reasons. So it would be kind of hypocritical of me to say something like wouldn't it be great, hip and edgy if they made a movie based on Norse mythology and have all the Vikings played by Hawaiians or movie based on African mythology and have them all played by Icelandic people.

Spiderman, I can take or leave. Honestly, I don't really care. But I'd be really ticked if they re-imagine Wonder Woman into something she isn't. So I can understand why some Spiderman fans would be against changing Spiderman's race or gender. A couple years back I remember reading Beyonce wanted to be Wonder Woman in the movie they were planning at the time. Nothing against her. Beautiful woman and great singer. But a short pop diva isn't a good casting choice for a tall Greek Amazon.

If they ever do a Wonder Woman movie, I want Wonder Woman to, you know, actually look like Wonder Woman. I don't want her race changed. I don't want her gender changed. I don't want her played by a short person. I don't so much as want her hair color changed. They already tried making a movie with a blonde Wonder Woman and it sucked.

[samurainoir]

Thank you. I will check it out. I guess great minds think alike...

Currently in the latest Ultimate Spider-man, Peter is totally wigging out because his house-mate Johnny Storm the Human Torch is crushing on Spider-woman who is secretly Peter's female Clone. Opens up an entire can of subtexual worms in regards to identity and sexuality, housed in the form of comic book soap opera.

[REMOVED]

My opinion is that comics have been dying because of fanboy's demand that everything stay within a strict continuity; that's inherently limiting as stories add up over fifty years and inevitably collapse under the weight of illogical choices and plot holes. Comics these days are running like an old car held together by rust and duct tape.

Some of the best stories in comics were "imaginary" ones outside of continuity, though it's hilarious to me that some stories have to be labeled "imaginary" because it suggests some people take continuity so seriously that they think they are real. What really bugs me, though, is when people feel like they own the characters to the point where a license holder can't do anything interesting or different without fanboys trying to handcuff them to worn-out or tired concepts that were created fifty years ago.

I wish more publishers were willing to risk playing around with their characters in a creative way. I loved the Bizarro books DC did with independent artists, and I enjoyed Peter Bagge's Spider-man and Hulk stories. Did those damage the characters at all? No... they were fun.

Think of it in terms of music... songs are covered, remixed and rereleased many, many times by many different artists, so why can't comics be? Some guys like Adam West's Batman and others like the Christian Bale Batman. What's wrong with that? More variety means more fans means more money for the publishers which means more stories to enjoy.

The way I see it, if you don't want Spider-man to be a black guy, don't watch it; no one is forcing you. It's fine if that isn't for you for whatever reason, but why prevent someone else from enjoying Spider-man that way? It shouldn't ruin your appreciation of the stories and movies that have already been released.

well said MegoSteve ;-)

[MegoSteve]

My opinion is that comics have been dying because of fanboy's demand that everything stay within a strict continuity; that's inherently limiting as stories add up over fifty years and inevitably collapse under the weight of illogical choices and plot holes. Comics these days are running like an old car held together by rust and duct tape.

Some of the best stories in comics were "imaginary" ones outside of continuity, though it's hilarious to me that some stories have to be labeled "imaginary" because it suggests some people take continuity so seriously that they think they are real. What really bugs me, though, is when people feel like they own the characters to the point where a license holder can't do anything interesting or different without fanboys trying to handcuff them to worn-out or tired concepts that were created fifty years ago.

I wish more publishers were willing to risk playing around with their characters in a creative way. I loved the Bizarro books DC did with independent artists, and I enjoyed Peter Bagge's Spider-man and Hulk stories. Did those damage the characters at all? No... they were fun.

Think of it in terms of music... songs are covered, remixed and rereleased many, many times by many different artists, so why can't comics be? Some guys like Adam West's Batman and others like the Christian Bale Batman. What's wrong with that? More variety means more fans means more money for the publishers which means more stories to enjoy.

The way I see it, if you don't want Spider-man to be a black guy, don't watch it; no one is forcing you. It's fine if that isn't for you for whatever reason, but why prevent someone else from enjoying Spider-man that way? It shouldn't ruin your appreciation of the stories and movies that have already been released.

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In that case, you would love the Ultimate Clone Saga, which has many of those things.

Seriously.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/be...2007/891-1.jpg

Thank you. I will check it out. I guess great minds think alike...

[samurainoir]

I would go for it. Why not?

I also wouldn't mind if Spiderman were a lesbian trapped in a man's body and also African American and an albino. It would add some interest and depth to the character.....

Seriously.

In that case, you would love the Ultimate Clone Saga, which has many of those things.

Seriously.

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I would go for it. Why not?

I also wouldn't mind if Spiderman were a lesbian trapped in a man's body and also African American and an albino. It would add some interest and depth to the character.....

Seriously.

[samurainoir]

ie Spiderman 2099(who I think was also white) but you get the point

I think Miguel O'Hara is half-mexican. His costume is actually tied into the day of the dead.

[Nostalgiabuff]

I think of all the ways they could screw up this Spider-Man reboot, casting an actor of color is pretty far down my list. There is nothing about the character where it wouldn't work the same if you changed the ethnicity (like say, Will Smith in "Wild Wild West").

lest we forget that movie sucked rotten apples and was one of a very few bombs for Mr. Smith. any other movies where they recast white characters as black and the movie tanked??? let's see - The Honey Mooners? Catwoman? I am sure there are many more.
I agree with a lot of the prior posts....you can't take a character as well known as Spiderman/Peter Parker and change them to a different ethnicity....unless you want to take the Hero persona and put them in a totally different era/setting and have the SI as a different person altogether......ie Spiderman 2099(who I think was also white) but you get the point

[Hulk]

Late to the party, but here's my humble opinion. I actually like the idea of Peter Parker being played by a black actor. The character could easily be black given his background. His story could fit the experience with little or no adaptation. An orphan being raised by his poor Aunt and Uncle in Queens NY. A young man being guided by the morality of a strong male role rodel, who has to deal with his hero being taken from him violently. He is ostracized for his intelligence and awkwardness. Peter Parker speaks to kids of all races because they can envision themselves in his situation, unlike Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent. He represents overcoming struggle while facing his worst nightmares.

Spiderman in costume shows nothing of his ethnicity, which makes that character's race meaningless, another reason why it translates so well internationally.

I'm not advocating for or against it, but if Marvel decides to go this route, then more power to them. This is an iconic character than can truly be shared by all races, so I'd probably be more interested in their take on this rather than seeing just a silly reboot.

The main issue I see with Donald Glover is that he's almost 27, the same age as Toby Macguire when he first appeared in the red spandex (meaning he'd be older when its released). Seems they are more interested in casting a younger actor that will still be fairly young when they make the sequels, opposed to someone in their thirties playing 16 - 19.

[Hector]

Well considering that the Hebrew people of the region were an ethnic mix of Semites (a group encompassing Jews and Arabs that is classified as caucasian) and Indo-Europeans (Greeks, Philistines, Samaritans, Iranians, Persians), Jesus would've looked much like any one of these guys on this Beirut soccer team.

http://www.lau.edu.lb/news-events/news/archive/lau_sporting_teams_shine_at_eu/sportstrips-spring09-08-big.jpg

Or one of these children from the same region... And this "Whiteness" is not due to recent European contact, the Kurds and Circassians have always had this look...

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/caricederaad/muslimsyria.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/caricederaad/rejpgu.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/caricederaad/152593140_6bcc3f525b_b.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/caricederaad/Iran.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/caricederaad/kalashgirl.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...eraad/a1-1.jpg

You are being selective.

Sure...many look like that...but many look like this as well...Feleknas Uca (a German politician of Kurdish decent)

[kingdom warrior]

When did Nick Fury become afro-americain and how did this come about?
Boggles the mind!

Fury became a brother in The Ultimate Universe. The Ultimate line is a different take on the Classic Marvel heroes. Breathing New Ideas and new concepts into the Characters. It has a slighty more mature theme and more realism to the characters without disrupting the continuity of their Original versions

[Joe90]

That's right, everyone knows he's Hispanic

And this is his little slice of Heaven...

[YANOULI]

I love all the Pics of The White Jesus Dude.

That's right, everyone knows he's Hispanic