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  • The Toyroom
    The Packaging King
    • Dec 31, 2004
    • 16653

    #16
    Yes I have to agree...Dark Avengers has been exceptionally good...better than I expected when I originally saw the premise. But Bendis on the regular Avengers has sucked since the Secret Invasion issues where there was much aso about nothing going on IMO.
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    • spamn
      Minty and All-Original!
      • Mar 28, 2002
      • 2128

      #17
      Aaaaaaaand to hear from the other side of the aisle.

      I love JRjr's art; it's distinctive and stylized and occasionally has wonky anatomy that I can easily disregard because I like how he lays everything out. However, I'm not a fan of Klaus Jansen's inking - he makes anybody's stuff look worse, and I almost always notice his inks, whereas most inkers are invisible to me. Don't really like the colors on this cover shot either. Iron Man looks off.

      As far as the member choices, I don't have too large an opinion. I'm not a longtime reader of Avengers, but as far as taking all of the Marvel icons and putting them on what is supposed to be the company's flagship team, I don't see what the problem is with that Idea. I'm surprised the Hulk hasn't been used, especially considering he was a founding member.

      Bendis has managed to make somewhat lame and under-utilized characters relevant and readable. Jessica Drew Spider-Woman and Luke Cage were pretty much Z-listers until he showed interest, and now along with Ms. Marvel and Iron Fist, they're on their way to being flagship characters and possibly, just maybe, inching towards Icon status.

      There have already been about a zillion Avengers - was I the only one who saw the two page spread in Avengers:Disasembled that featured every single Avenger ever? There were a lot of them. Why shouldn't Spider-man and Wolvie get to play? It seems like a no-brainer to put two of the most recognized Marvel Characters on the team. Isn't that where we should want the Big Guns?

      And I'm a Bendis fan. He wins for character and dialog, and his story ideas keep coming, which impresses me greatly. I don't think he can write short, densely plotted stuff to save his life, but in trade his stuff reads great. I switched to trade almost exclusively and only follow about five titles monthly now. His Avengers stuff is among them, despite how I think it reads better collected. That's how much I like his work.

      I'm sure this book is no exception, and look forward to picking it up.

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      • The Toyroom
        The Packaging King
        • Dec 31, 2004
        • 16653

        #18
        ^ Bah!
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        • samurainoir
          Eloquent Member
          • Dec 26, 2006
          • 18758

          #19
          I'm still on board with Bendis, although to be honest, the Big Company Books aren't at the top of my list when it comes to the titles he writes. With the exception of Ultimate Spiderman which continues to feel fresh and he's got a real voice for Peter and the other teen characters.

          With Dark Avengers coming to an end, I'd just prefer Bendis to continuing pushing the envelope with his more fringe titles. I think it would be great for him to focus on Powers or go back to doing more crime/noir stuff like Goldfish and Jinx. Or a return to Alias centred on Cage and Jessica Jones. Alternatively, some kind of relaunch of the Super Villain Teamup concept given how much I enjoyed Dark Avengers and characters like The Hood.
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          • BlackKnight
            The DarkSide Customizer
            • Apr 16, 2005
            • 14622

            #20
            Originally posted by The Toyroom
            ^ Bah!
            No Doubt Dude ...
            I can't believe he wrote all that.


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            • AAAAA
              Permanent Member
              • Oct 28, 2005
              • 2505

              #21
              boy i do miss the old days . and now we know why marvel went bankrupt

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              • The Toyroom
                The Packaging King
                • Dec 31, 2004
                • 16653

                #22
                Originally posted by BlackKnight
                No Doubt Dude ...
                I can't believe he wrote all that.


                I can't believe we read all that!
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                • spamn
                  Minty and All-Original!
                  • Mar 28, 2002
                  • 2128

                  #23
                  Originally posted by The Toyroom
                  ^ Bah!
                  Originally posted by BlackKnight
                  No Doubt Dude ...
                  I can't believe he wrote all that.


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                  • BlackKnight
                    The DarkSide Customizer
                    • Apr 16, 2005
                    • 14622

                    #24
                    Originally posted by The Toyroom
                    I can't believe we read all that!


                    I had too ..., It was the Greatest , Longest Nonsense that I totally didn't agree with Since I read a Hue Post , in quite some time. I was Intruiged.
                    ... The Original Knight ..., Often Imitated, However Never Duplicated. The 1st Knight in Customs.


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                    • Wee67
                      Museum Correspondent
                      • Apr 2, 2002
                      • 10603

                      #25
                      This is the only title that I still collect and I'm not sure why I continue. I've been frustrated with myself for feeling the need to buy all the titles of books I'm not sure I enjoy. I keep hoping theat Hero (with a capital "H") will come back and win. I don't like this new art, but I'll keep an open mind. and hope.
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                      • spamn
                        Minty and All-Original!
                        • Mar 28, 2002
                        • 2128

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BlackKnight


                        I had too ..., It was the Greatest , Longest Nonsense that I totally didn't agree with Since I read a Hue Post , in quite some time. I was Intruiged.
                        Nonsense, eh? Why I oughtta....

                        Anybody wanna buy some cheap Black Knight Customs cards?

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                        • Surfsup
                          Silver Chrome Dome
                          • Dec 2, 2005
                          • 1352

                          #27
                          I don't have any problems with the team selection, I always thought that anybody from the Marvel Universe could possibly be a member of the team. It's obviously tactical with all those characters being very popular but then they do have to shift units.

                          As for the chosen artist, I'm overjoyed! I've always been a big fan of JrJr, even more so than his legendary dad.

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                          • Brazoo
                            Permanent Member
                            • Feb 14, 2009
                            • 4767

                            #28
                            That cover looks like fan art - shameful.

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                            • Earth 2 Chris
                              Verbose Member
                              • Mar 7, 2004
                              • 32977

                              #29
                              Junior HAS chops, but he long ago fell into a very unappealing style, IMHO. I loved his early Spidey stuff. But since then..nah.

                              As for the lineup...it's corporate-driven, obviously. The Avengers has never been the total A-list that JLA normally was. Now they are, for better or worse.

                              Chris
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                              • The Toyroom
                                The Packaging King
                                • Dec 31, 2004
                                • 16653

                                #30
                                Dear Marvel,
                                Here's the ideal Avengers team: Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Scarlet Witch, The Vision, She-Hulk, Yellowjacket (or Ant-Man), The Wasp, Hawkeye, The Beast, Wonder Man and Tigra. Use it!

                                Thanks,
                                Anthony
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