AnyOne Know What's Up With Namor ?

[samurainoir]

"Influenced by" or "similar to" is one thing, but it is quite another when you look at a modern comic and see what appears to be a direct likeness of someone there...

It's a matter of degree and ... unfortunately, frequency, IMHO.

Look at the images... there really is no doubt there that Gil Kane is drawing a direct likeness of Martin Milner, David Muzzicelli is drawing Gregory Peck and that Kirby is drawing Steranko in every panel these characters aren't wearing their masks. Even as a teenager, I had seen enough Gregory Peck films to identify him in Batman Year 1 when I picked up those issues in the same way I would later recognize the older Gregory Peck in Alex Ross' Kingdom Come. This isn't a fad!

As for "influence" and "similar", I'm saying it's not just a difference between modern and vintage comics. I really don't think anyone here was able to tell that Maleev was using Deniro before the reveal. Certainly there was enough ambiguity for a Joe Pesci callout.

[60'schild]

"Influenced by" or "similar to" is one thing, but it is quite another when you look at a modern comic and see what appears to be a direct likeness of someone there...

It's a matter of degree and ... unfortunately, frequency, IMHO.

[samurainoir]

Even Kirby!

[samurainoir]

"Casting" for comic book character is nothing new though.

Guy Gardner was based on Martin Milner from Adam 12 according to artist Gil Kane...




David Mazzucchelli used Gregory Peck in Batman Year 1...

[Earth 2 Chris]

I've always suspected that the reason some artists do this is 'cos they're drawing in a more realistic way, nd it's a lot easier to do so from a model rather than make a character whole cloth. (Noticed it way back with "Marvels," when you could name almost every "actor" in the book. "HEY! Reed Richards is the Professor!")

Yes, Ross kind of started it. But at least The Professor fits Reed, as did Timothy Dalton for Tony. I never saw Namor as a DeNiro type, and I doubt few did either.

As much as I admire Ross' work, his popularity started several trends in comic art I don't care for. The dynamic art form of black and white images with color added may have been lost thanks to all of this, and everyone going overboard with their Photoshop filters.

Chris

[thunderbolt]

The casting fad for comic artists did lead to Sammy jackson playing Nick Fury.

[60'schild]

When they first started doing it, I hoped it was just a passing fad. Now I can see that certain artists are using it as a crutch or perhaps because it makes their work "special" (insert whatever current slang word equates with " subversively popular".

In either case, I don't like it... one more reason I find myself spending more and more time with my classic books ...

[ctc]

>These artists REALLY need to stop "casting" actors in every role. Esp, if said actor doesn't FIT that role.

I've always suspected that the reason some artists do this is 'cos they're drawing in a more realistic way, nd it's a lot easier to do so from a model rather than make a character whole cloth. (Noticed it way back with "Marvels," when you could name almost every "actor" in the book. "HEY! Reed Richards is the Professor!")

Don C.

[Earth 2 Chris]

These artists REALLY need to stop "casting" actors in every role. Esp, if said actor doesn't FIT that role.

Google Image search has doomed comic book art.

Chris

[The Toyroom]

^ Yeah this definitely ain't "your daddy's Sub-Mariner" (or mine either)

[60'schild]

That artwork by Maleev was horrible....very distracting....All the while reading I kept thinking "THIS is Namor?"...

THAT is an understatement... one of many reasons why the nuMarvel is NOT for me.

[The Toyroom]

That artwork by Maleev was horrible....very distracting....All the while reading I kept thinking "THIS is Namor?"...

[johnnystorm]

Namor's been in the last couple issues of Agents of Atlas, where he's said that he is keeping tabs on Osborn to prevent Atlantis being attacked or used again. He was hot & heavy with Namora as well, some background being given on the Atlantean breeding programs that produced the pair. I think they are manipulating him into being more like the original 40S version (pre-Invaders), maybe to coincide with the 70th Anniversary stuff Marvel's doing.

[BlackKnight]

Well ,.. I guess that explains it... If I were Drawn With "Moobs" I'd be a little upset too.

[60'schild]

Namor's Undersea Kingdom has hit really hard times, you know.. The previous administration there was busy looking for Undersea Weapons of Mass Destruction next door at Aquaman's kingdom.

Some say that Namor's predecessor, Krang reportedly even misled members of the Atlantean High council on this in an effort to topple the illegal regime of the rival warlord Attuma, though some speculated that control of the Undersea Lemurian Oil fields was really the reason for the conflict. All the while, the evil Renegade Black Manta has been reportedly holed up somewhere in the Undersea caverns of Mu, occasionally releasing messages to taunt the Imperious Rex.

Wait a minute , did someone mix in those news magazines with my comics again??

Don't you just hate it when that happens!