Ha ha. Marvel hates you!

[The Bat]

The Clone thing is a What if? sort of story, giving DeFalco a chance to tell the story the way he intended it without the editorial monkeying that went on with it. Sorta like Claremont's XMen book telling the story he would have done had he not been run off the book by that dickhead Jim Lee and the editor that took the artist's side instead of the writer that had been on the book for years.

If you're reffereing to the then "Editor in Chief" Joe Quesada...then we agree on something...I HATE Quesada! He's the Idiot the gave Morrison(with Quitely)free reign on the X-Men, for the worst X-Men run EVER! It has the distinction of being the ONLY time I've ever cancelled the X-Men in 30something years of buying the Book.

[thunderbolt]

Quesedilla wasn't editor then, he was artist on X-Factor at the time. It was probably Bob Harras that sided with the "artist" hack Jim Lee. Then Lee went all prima donna and left Marvel to go play with his Image goons. And the world of comics is oh so much better for having Image form.

[samurainoir]

It was in fact Bob Harras that was running the X-Men kingdom back then during the Jim Lee years.

I believe Defalco was still EIC during the Clone Saga wasn't he? Or was this during the short-lived 5 Editorial Kingdoms which culminated in Bob Harras taking the Big Chair.

[The Bat]

I think you forget the reason these Artist & Writers formed Image. Marvel was making Money off these Guys BIG Time...and not sharing in the rewards. They had no ownership over new Characters they created. Let's not forget Marvel has a history of shafting their own People(ask Stan Lee).

Apparrently DC thinks Image is worth something...or they wouldn't have bough the Company.

[The Toyroom]

Apparrently DC thinks Image is worth something...or they wouldn't have bough the Company.

DC didn't buy Image....Image still exists today. DC bought Jim Lee's company Wildstorm, which was one of the many studios that made up Image. Basically, Jim Lee "sold out" his dream to the fat cats who were holding him back in the first place.

[The Toyroom]

in the "Ha Ha Marvel hates you vein" how about running old man logan in the wolverine book in which i have a subscription, only to end it in a special one shot. Thanks marvel

Yeah this seems liker poor planning on Marvel's part....almost like something DC would do lately. The problem is Millar and McNiven have been too slow on Wolverine and Marvel was in a hurry to end it so they could convert the title to Dark Wolverine with #75 starring Wolverine's son Daken. You'll probably be better off cancelling your subscription now anyway...Typical bait and switch tactics, people subscribe to Wolverine and now you give them something else.
Shades of switching Incredible Hulk to Incredible Hercules....

[The Toyroom]

Ha Ha Marvel hates you

Hate 'em back....

[The Bat]

Basically, Jim Lee "sold out" his dream to the fat cats who were holding him back in the first place.

Eh...so what! Now he gets to draw Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, etc...I'd sell out too!!

[goldenryan]

i'm a fan of marvel because they brought back brother voodoo.

[The Bat]

i'm a fan of marvel because they brought back brother voodoo.

[Riffster]

Yeah this seems liker poor planning on Marvel's part....almost like something DC would do lately. The problem is Millar and McNiven have been too slow on Wolverine and Marvel was in a hurry to end it so they could convert the title to Dark Wolverine with #75 starring Wolverine's son Daken. You'll probably be better off cancelling your subscription now anyway...Typical bait and switch tactics, people subscribe to Wolverine and now you give them something else.
Shades of switching Incredible Hulk to Incredible Hercules....

funny, I just put in a cancel/transfer the subscription over to Wolverine Weapon X, I had just renewed that book too. Funny I bought a subscription to the Spiderwoman series that was supposed to start in April, #1 is finally listed in Sept solicitations

[ctc]

>Basically, Jim Lee "sold out" his dream to the fat cats who were holding him back in the first place.

I dunno if I'd agree; considering when he was working for Image HE left his own book fairly early on! They ALL did! Kinda made me think the problem wasn't being held back artisticly, it was not getting a cut of the cash. Period.

I think the dream WAS the money, and if DC antes up, so much the better.

Don C.

[thunderbolt]

Eh...so what! Now he gets to draw Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, etc...I'd sell out too!!

When was the last time he drew anything? 2 years ago?

[thunderbolt]

I think you forget the reason these Artist & Writers formed Image. Marvel was making Money off these Guys BIG Time...and not sharing in the rewards. They had no ownership over new Characters they created. Let's not forget Marvel has a history of shafting their own People(ask Stan Lee).

Apparrently DC thinks Image is worth something...or they wouldn't have bough the Company.

DC bought Wildstorm. And since the early 80's the creators for hire do get a cut off of characters they are credited to have created when they are used in other stuff like movies and toys. Byrne even gets a cut every time Kitty Pryde is used elsewhere. Image was formed as a pure egostroke nothing more. If they wanted to do creator ownded stuff there were plenty of other publishers out there.

[The Bat]

Edited in case of the overly sensitive.